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NEV · Guru

motorcycle alarms

Ralzy · Guru

While on the subject of security If your ever considering an upgrade chain for your anchor try this muthatucker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kvn-FNLcMU

-- Edited by Ralzy on Saturday 25th of February 2012 10:46:09 PM

gooner78 · Guru

can anyone recommend any decent motorcycle alarms that they have used or have as i want to have a couple fitted to my bikes.
I,m paranoid at the best of times when it comes to security and the recent bike theft threads have made my mind up i,m already using D locks and disc locks i even have a ground anchor but definatly want some alarms

gooner78 · Guru

That looks good for the money the thing is i have a dtr and wre and would like to be able to use the remote with the alarm its definatly an option though thanks

NEV · Guru

Btw when I first installed mine I put it all undsr the seat, but with all the road crud flung up at it I made a bracket for where the 2t oil bottle sat, (I run pre-mix now so no need for it ) much better there.

Sgt-syphilis · Guru

I have a cyclone v2 alarm. About £25 or £35 I think. It's never missed a beat. Has immobiliser too so you can't even start engine with keys if alarm is active. You get two fobs, and you can even pay them to install if you like. Mine has remote start. Makes me sleep a dam site better I must say!

ToySoldier · DTR Legend

wer is there to put the controll box thou id have one on mine allready if i could think of somewer to put it

Ralzy · Guru

@ Sgt-syphilis Cyclone alarms are sweet I`m happy with mine aswell anything that makes it harder for the sticky fingered barstewards is a deffo thumbs up

Ralzy · Guru

Fairly simple device to install.

If your bike has electric start capability. The remote start function will work fine.

-- Edited by Ralzy on Sunday 26th of February 2012 07:10:38 AM

jakeDT125 · DTR Senior Member

just ordered myself one of those cyclone v2 alarms, they easy to fit? and do all the features work on the dt like remote start and all that?

Sgt-syphilis · Guru

Erm no it won't work fine lol. The only thing is that the yammy security systems fights with the remote start. Basically, to prevent hot wiring it won't start with the key in he off position as standard. So when you fit the alarm the same thing still happens. So the remote start will only work if the key is already in and on. You can get the ignition thing done by yammy, but I haven't bothered. Two reasons for this; firstly cos I worry I'll accidentally start it when I'm in a shop or something lol and secondly, the whole remote start is a bit of a novelty...and you'll find you hardly ever use it as its quite impractical. Im happy with it working with keys in...cos think about it - if you leave your bike for anything more than 5 mins you're gonna lock it...or if it's over night it'll get cold and you'll need choke...so you're gonna have to be standing next to it unlocking it and stuff so no need for remote start.

What I use it for is when I leave the bike for very short periods of time. And I just leave the keys in it...only if I can see/hear the bike. Like petrol stations or small shops. Then I can use the remote start just as I come out. And if anyone tries to steal it...I'll just press the kill engine button! Simple!

And toy, my box is under my seat, next to where the snorkel goes I run it without snorkel anyway so don't know if it will fit with snorkel? Had to mod it a bit with a Stanley knife but it looks great. I put the actual beeper thing in the little slot under the petrol tank fastener.

And no it's not that hard to fit...you've soldered before right? If you're not sure then get help! I'll gladly help you if you're near by?

jakeDT125 · DTR Senior Member

im up yorkshire mate, but yeah i have done plenty of soldering before.
and thanks for the help, the main thing i like is the kill engine button :) thats classy that haha

NEV · Guru

Sgt-syphilis wrote:
Erm no it won't work fine lol. The only thing is that the yammy security systems fights with the remote start. Basically, to prevent hot wiring it won't start with the key in he off position as standard. So when you fit the alarm the same thing still happens. So the remote start will only work if the key is already in and on. You can get the ignition thing done by yammy, but I haven't bothered. Two reasons for this; firstly cos I worry I'll accidentally start it when I'm in a shop or something lol and secondly, the whole remote start is a bit of a novelty...and you'll find you hardly ever use it as its quite impractical. Im happy with it working with keys in...cos think about it - if you leave your bike for anything more than 5 mins you're gonna lock it...or if it's over night it'll get cold and you'll need choke...so you're gonna have to be standing next to it unlocking it and stuff so no need for remote start.

And no it's not that hard to fit...you've soldered before right? If you're not sure then get help! I'll gladly help you if you're near by?

I reckon thats where the two alarms are different, the Hawke doesn't need the key in the ignition to remote start it, and you certainly don't need to solder anything just cut the wires for that you need to join in to, then put double female bullet on one wire, and single bullet connecters on the other wires..

Have a look at the install manual here

14 HAWK X-60 TALKING MOTORCYCLE ALARM INSTALL MANUAL.

http://www.hawkcaralarm.com/Manuals.aspx

Ralzy · Guru

@ Sgt-syphilis Thanks for submitting the correct information, as I assumed it wouldn`t pose a problem with electric starters seeing as the alarm has that capability.

You know what they say about Never assume as it makes an ass-u-me !!!

Calum122 · Guru

Yeah I've just bought the cyclone alarm. Should be getting it in the next couple of days. So it sounds like the Cyclone alarm wasn't too hard to fit then? I wonder where I'm going to fit everything?

I still have the snorkel in. Everything is pretty much standard on my bike so I do wonder where I'm going to fit it all.

I am open to suggestions and help if anyone is willing lol?

NEV · Guru

Came across this review for the Cyclone c11 alarm, couple of lads in here seem to rave about. The review is from a proffessional alarm fitter so he knows his stuff, impressive reading till you get down to the end bit, where I've highlighted in red.

Hi Guys, I purchased a Cyclone C11 bike alarm from N cook security and thought you might like my experience. One of my previous "lives" was a car alarm fitter, fitting Cobra, Lazerline, Scorpion alarm systems costing lots of money. Coming from the premium car alarm arena you are brainwashed into believing that all cheaper alarms are either going to be trouble, lack features or ineffective and so purchasing a bike alarm costing under £25 was a huge leap of faith. The Cyclone C11 alarm is made in China and this only seems to have affected the cost of the alarm as neither the quality or features seemed to have suffered from its origins. I was particularly impressed with the small size of the main unit and the quality of the remote controls which are of a heavy chrome construction and would probably still work if you ran them over with a truck! Fitting was a breeze and N Cook Security who I would highly recommend, were very helpful and provided a dedicated wiring diagram specific to my bike.
The fitting of the alarm was straight forward but always start by disconnecting the negative side of your battery. The complicated part was figuring out where to fit the main control unit and then unbolting lots of parts to hide it. One of the things that most DIY alarm fitters do is find the easiest place to fit the control box, it also makes it easy for the thief to find it too. You want to find a hard to reach place that is dry and also not next to something that runs hot like an exhaust pipe. The main box has a sticky pad to secure it but I also fitted a tie wrap to make sure the control unit stayed put. The same consideration should be given to the sounder and wiring. The sound needs to get out so pay attention to where this goes. Once these are fitted it is a simple matter of following the wiring diagram making sure that you solder and heatshrink the connections. Crimps or skotch blocks are not recommended as these are the biggest cause of alarm failure or false triggering.
Once this is completed, check your connections twice, then reconnect your bike battery and start your bike. Do the normal pre MOT testing of your lights and indicators to ensure that nothing is wrong. Next turn the bike off and make sure its in neutral. Press the padlock button on your remote and the bike should beep, flash the indicators and the blue led should flash. Tap the bike and you should get a voice warning followed by some beeps. Tap it again and the alarm should go off. Once you have tested this, try the remote starting. This should be done off road. Next start the bike with the key and try the kill feature.
Remember your alarm is only as good as the installation. In my experience 99.9% or faults are due to bad installation. This alarm does not have battery backup so ensure that the wires are hidden and cant be reached. Solder your connections then waterproof them. Most importantly you should recognize your capabilities and if you don't know what your doing be smart by finding a qualified fitter before you either blow your alarm up or your bike.

So basically cut the main battery wire, and the alarm is immobilised, this takes seconds to do.

Now then do the same to the Hawk alarm and the alarm goes off, I know this as I've tried it. Everything else between the two alarms is almost identical mind, including the price.

So in my opinion the Hawk Pro 60 is much better than the Cyclone due to this fact.

Reef · Guru

Ay has any one else found that the maximum sensitivity on the v2 is a bit pooey, like compared to other alarms I've used it's pretty shocking, no matter how hard you hit it always gives you the warning lights and then if you proceed to carry on that's when it will go off properly, other alarms I've used go off straight away with a reasonable tap??