Yeah respect to you Norfe good work. I have a friend who is a bit of a coke head, he's got me to try it a few times but honestly i find it a tad boring i get a better rush off a few cans of that 35p energy drink lol that stuff makes me wired.
For me weed is a purely social thing, last time i touched it was last month in holland, as you do lol. Next planning on it in a few weeks for a friends birthday where we just get high listen to banging tunes and talk complete bollocks. Take a look at holland, we can easily take a leaf from their book as everyone i've met over there has been friendly and interesting to talk to....and the women LOVE my accent :P
Had to throw in an edit here, yes drugs can leads to crime etc but those people aren't everyone that tries them, yes there are people that just want to get completely spangled on drugs and for the most part they're the dickheads you hear about.
Me, I absolutely LOVE ecstacy, the main reason being before i tried it i was in a major set of depression, feeling suicidal very closed in on myself and the main way to release my frustrations was to piss other people off which made things worse. Friend of mine and fellow raver suggested i try it with him, we did our research, took it easy found out as much as we could and if anyone is in anyway interested in trying something they should do this too. Anyway having done it a few times it has changed my life in a way that has made me feel better generally in life, i feel my emotions a lot better which has also helped me deal with my emotional problems and it's also gotten me a lot more friends. But at most i take it once every 4/5 months. It truly is a wonder drug and the sooner they release it for therapeutic work the better as it can help a lot of people if managed correctly.
-- Edited by Seanyftw on Wednesday 25th of April 2012 01:19:17 PM
Out of all the drugs (legal & illegal) i think cannabis is the least harmful, i've been smoking it for 18 years and it has never made me want to go out robbing to fund my habit, its never made me ill, its never made me want to beat on or cheat on my gf, or attack people in the street. It HAS helped me chill the **** out after a hard day, every day.
I also had a colourful youth, i partied on all sorts of chemicals hard for years, until my body couldn't take it anymore, in fact my body is still paying for it 8 years later. But again i wouldn't say ganja was the gateway drug, drink was.
I know cannabis can have bad effects on youngsters and people with underling mental health problems, but what drugs don't. At least if it was legalised there could be more control, research, taxation, min age set. Not to mention the health benifits to people suffering terminal illness etc. Even the yanks are starting to open there eyes, and they were the ones that started the scare mongering!
Oh and its not like this stuff has just been knocked up in a lab a few years back like most drugs about, our ancestors have been using it safely and happily for thousands of years. No one has ever died from cannabis overdose.
That is my opinion of the matter (sorry if i offend you), and i will be signing the petition, ..if i remember! haha
-- Edited by fused420 on Wednesday 25th of April 2012 06:25:11 PM
I mean I never have/will ever smoke it but in all fairness I haven't got anything against it either. I think if at least we tax it then we make money. Plus legalising it will make it safer as it won't be sketchy homegrown stuff. But ultimately we will pay the price for treating people with severe anxiety, paranoia and many other symptons that occur when smoking it.
The people that get that shouldn't smoke weed. But the positives outweigh the negatives in terms of cannabis as a treatment. Sure smoking it isn't that great.
Apart from when you come out from masters of hardcore in Den Bósh walk across the road get yourself a nice 8th of purple haze and blaze up while still rushing your nips off from amazing pills. Man that was ****ing great!
more people will then be taking it and getting addicted, causing more job losses and debt, then the crime rate will go up costing more to the government and more costs for the nhs due to paranoya and skitsos needing mental help
coz i dont give a fook what any one says any long term drug use causes serious health issues
its all a vicious circle
fair enough for the people who have the odd joint at a party or whatever
but then it becomes a free for all for dealers/ crime again theft / burgalrys all the usual stuff
trust me from personal experiance from smoking the odd joint when i was at school escalated to 5 years of heavy partying with speed and extacy every weekend thur,fri,sat,sun, then moved on to coke hevily addicted up to a grands worth a week now my heds ****t,wierd temper, mood swings
wierd sleep conditions blood clots in me lungs & 4 jobs
wether you have an addictive personality or not, this life style is hard work
altho i did have some of the best times off my life and sit and wonder how i didnt die
no drugs shud be legalised end of
they will never stop the drug use but it will spred like wild fire look at the 60/70's ha ha
Well there we go. I think NORFE makes a better point. Sorry dude won't be signing.
Hey NORFE! Respect man! I'm pleased you're clean and that you didn't die man. It takes a lot of will power to stop and you have so fair play to you mate!
I would state how I realy feel about drugs and weed but I would get a ban for my language .. but will have a little rant
I know loads of lads that started smoke weed as teens they became lazy dopey chav stealing scum to fund the next joint {I know not all are like this but most are}
I have also seen as a none drug taker or weed smoker the lead up to other drugs it always starts with the weed then the e.s or speed then maybe a bit of coke just to fit in with the lads .. then maybe later ..the dirty brown /smack comes along... and destroys lives not only of the taker but all around them .
sorry for the rant but lost to family members to the above life cycle peter 20 years old . and jason 24 r.i.p could fill this page with other names of mates or ppl I went to school with .
Can i just point out that cigarettes and alcohol are the worst drugs around, purely because they're legal. Anyway let's not turn this into a major discussion we all have our opinions. Group hug anyone?
yes alchohol has its bad sides if abused but knowing the culture and being brought up on the sheffield manor estate. I know that most lads wanting a can or night out do not go and steal a bike or car to fund it ..
also I smoke ciggys and can never say I have ever felt the need to steal to buy them and have never seen the theifs on the estate out robbing to buy 20 beson-h
I have seen and know of groups of lads who are out almost every night robbing just to fund the weed habbit and yes I say habbit . also after smoking 10 roll ups today I feel safe to drive ?
I know full well the ciggys are killing me and one day they will but am sure in all the years of smoking that no one has been robbed or hurt for my habbit and the only criminals to benefit from my smokeing is the gov .
Well they need to get their **** sorted then mate, not being funny but i've never hung around with people of that caliber for long.
The point is this **** is more beneficial than the legal drugs (and i don't mean the legal high fad, **** everything about that). And properly regulated the country could enjoy a nice tax boost from that and do the economy some good.
Also i don't smoke much, i still get headrushes from my rollups sometimes :D lol
fact is if you like smoking weed its crazy to asked for it to be legalized ... instantly its gona rocket in price with tax packageing and publicty even the back street sellers will follow the trend store prices as you see with import backy .
Can i just point out that cigarettes and alcohol are the worst drugs around, purely because they're legal. Anyway let's not turn this into a major discussion we all have our opinions. Group hug anyone?
yes cigs and booze is the real big issue in uk
they go on about how bad they are for the nhs health n ****...y dont they just stop selling them.........COZ THEY MAKE TO MUCH MONEY FROM THEM SIMPLE FACT!!
Yeah respect to you Norfe good work. I have a friend who is a bit of a coke head, he's got me to try it a few times but honestly i find it a tad boring i get a better rush off a few cans of that 35p energy drink lol that stuff makes me wired.
For me weed is a purely social thing, last time i touched it was last month in holland, as you do lol. Next planning on it in a few weeks for a friends birthday where we just get high listen to banging tunes and talk complete bollocks. Take a look at holland, we can easily take a leaf from their book as everyone i've met over there has been friendly and interesting to talk to....and the women LOVE my accent :P
Had to throw in an edit here, yes drugs can leads to crime etc but those people aren't everyone that tries them, yes there are people that just want to get completely spangled on drugs and for the most part they're the dickheads you hear about.
Me, I absolutely LOVE ecstacy, the main reason being before i tried it i was in a major set of depression, feeling suicidal very closed in on myself and the main way to release my frustrations was to piss other people off which made things worse. Friend of mine and fellow raver suggested i try it with him, we did our research, took it easy found out as much as we could and if anyone is in anyway interested in trying something they should do this too. Anyway having done it a few times it has changed my life in a way that has made me feel better generally in life, i feel my emotions a lot better which has also helped me deal with my emotional problems and it's also gotten me a lot more friends. But at most i take it once every 4/5 months. It truly is a wonder drug and the sooner they release it for therapeutic work the better as it can help a lot of people if managed correctly.
-- Edited by Seanyftw on Wednesday 25th of April 2012 01:19:17 PM
i wont deny the fact that round ens arn good coz there ace, specially when some good ones turn up
like i sed b4 had some of the best nights of my life on them
flat broke on a friday after work, with that friday feelin find mi sen a tenner to get in club dubble drop 2 or 6 lol ( they tend to loose effect if ur eating them every weekend for years)
and have a mad nite,make loadsa friends have sum good shags.....then its sundy mornin with the cumdown and uv woke up next to some ugly bird in a house u don recognise ha ha on the plus side uv spent under £20 !!
but it gets to the point where u just look at ya sen in mirror eyes all over place bangin hed ake and blood dripping from ya nose and think fook me what the **** av i done !!!!!
i basically stoped every fin in the space of 2 weeks
its alot to do with people u hang round with infact all to do with that !
and when u take a step back and look at the (best mates in the world) you realise there just stupid like ur self and going no where in life apart from prison 1 day
had to many close calls for my liking so thats that chapter in my life put to bed
now have a verry well paid job, 2 kids a mrs & a wedding in cyprus on the way & sort of healthy and will never say never again, just in moderation , saying i used to be out wed-sundy early hours every week iv been out 2 times in last 2 years just dont bother me any more
now i look forward to the family life and enjoying the things i can do with LEGALY EARNED money lol
i havent got a problem or do not care what any 1 thinks about me when they hear or no of things i have done, every one has a past and goes thru life making there own choices
no 1 makes u do any thing
peace to all and do wtf u want in life and if its illegal be prepaired to face the consequenses simple as !!
Yeah know what you mean Norfe, that's why i take it on special occasions only to let my serotonin and dopamine levels get back to normal, and i don't really suffer from comedowns, must be the fact i keep myself well hydrated and don't drink when i do do it, i find a sip of ice cold water orgasmic when rolling whereas some say it makes them feel sick lol.
But yeah i'm up and bouncing the next day lol, maybe an energy drink but i'm fine. Guess it makes up for me being a fat cúnt eh :D
And yeah tax on it would skyrocket, but if done like holland it could go well.
I thought that might kick up some mixed views . Personally i think the most dangerous thing about cannabis it is the criminal record that can come in situe with it,
Im not sure whether its a good thing or a bad thing legalization it hasnt done the usa's economy to bad at all, the legalization would have ups an downs i guess tax earned like fags an beer less spend outs on raids an imprisoning people,less cash for those dealers who use it to fund there future ventures in to the harder stuff to feed our kids, It probably would cost the nhs more. Buying legally would cost more to but be clean not shoddy homegrown dirty nutrient weed like mateys on about.
iv had my fair share of mad ones as a youth but the gateway drugs of it all were beer an fags not cannabis then on the heavier substances i didnt try any weed till after id been clubbin on tabs but like Norfe we all grow up one day, never been out robbing to fund anything tho dont agree with that at all.
Think i was about 22 23 when i knocked it all on the head. then in 2004 i was proper mr clean the mrs came up with this idea that i should give up my top job building luxury yachs an we should all move to stoke.
A few weeks after moving she told me she was off to see her mom back in essex for a few days with my son, an called me the next day to tell me shes with someone else now after 8 yrs,
so it kinda broke me losing my son, anyway after all this id ended up lockin myself away from the world an developing aggoraphbia an panicing about everything not goin to shops or feeding myself or really living at all I was under the doctor for years an years taking allsorts of meds an visits to the pychs, nothing sorted it out . So i gave up on all the stuff they were filling me with an saw the yanks on this medical weed biz an thought cant hurt to give it a go life couldnt get much worse.
it seemed to work in 09 i had found myself associating with people again getting out of the house id called a prison for years. got my ass to a cbt center an got on the road again now on to doing my full test living pretty normally. On to being able to get out with ease each day shop an feed myself without major panic attacks.
so in the end of it all i think it has to many good medical properties to not be availible, dependent on the person i suppose all i can say is it helped me. im not a drinker at all never have been , an now three weeks back i gave up fags too so mr cleans on the return lol.
im going to sign it anyway
That's too bad mate. Your not the only one who's had a set back. For the past year I've been suffering with anxiety and panic attacks. Tried a few medicines such as Propanolol but in the end decided that short term solutions ain't going to solve anything. Here I am still suffering but going Headstrong and trying mind over matter. I mean there was a day before I was ill where nothing bothered me, and I am to be there again.
Sorry to hear that m8 I wouldnt wish it on anyone fella hopefully you get yourself sorted soon.
theres a lot of help out there,
I just went with an alternate method in the end i smoked it for around a year constanltly till i was managing fine on my own ,
just when my anxiety was peaking usually before i was about to try an go outdoors . id have one go out calm but itdd wear off an i need to be home again. now ill have a social one every now an then thats it really, its not like i got hooked on the stuff i get out pretty easy nowdays without all the dramas or the drugs.
-- Edited by tripr on Wednesday 25th of April 2012 11:21:51 PM
Yeah cigarettes and alcohol is bad for you. Which is why I do neither. I actually pitty the people who say they need it to enjoy themselves. That's total bollocks and they know it. I PERSONALLY love having a clear head and making decent choices. I like being the only sober one as well lol. Always a good way to go out mind cause I'm always designated driver :D
I thought that might kick up some mixed views . Personally i think the most dangerous thing about cannabis it is the criminal record that can come in situe with it,
Im not sure whether its a good thing or a bad thing legalization it hasnt done the usa's economy to bad at all, the legalization would have ups an downs i guess tax earned like fags an beer less spend outs on raids an imprisoning people,less cash for those dealers who use it to fund there future ventures in to the harder stuff to feed our kids, It probably would cost the nhs more. Buying legally would cost more to but be clean not shoddy homegrown dirty nutrient weed like mateys on about.
iv had my fair share of mad ones as a youth but the gateway drugs of it all were beer an fags not cannabis then on the heavier substances i didnt try any weed till after id been clubbin on tabs but like Norfe we all grow up one day, never been out robbing to fund anything tho dont agree with that at all.
Think i was about 22 23 when i knocked it all on the head. then in 2004 i was proper mr clean the mrs came up with this idea that i should give up my top job building luxury yachs an we should all move to stoke.
A few weeks after moving she told me she was off to see her mom back in essex for a few days with my son, an called me the next day to tell me shes with someone else now after 8 yrs,
so it kinda broke me losing my son, anyway after all this id ended up lockin myself away from the world an developing aggoraphbia an panicing about everything not goin to shops or feeding myself or really living at all I was under the doctor for years an years taking allsorts of meds an visits to the pychs, nothing sorted it out . So i gave up on all the stuff they were filling me with an saw the yanks on this medical weed biz an thought cant hurt to give it a go life couldnt get much worse.
it seemed to work in 09 i had found myself associating with people again getting out of the house id called a prison for years. got my ass to a cbt center an got on the road again now on to doing my full test living pretty normally. On to being able to get out with ease each day shop an feed myself without major panic attacks.
so in the end of it all i think it has to many good medical properties to not be availible, dependent on the person i suppose all i can say is it helped me. im not a drinker at all never have been , an now three weeks back i gave up fags too so mr cleans on the return lol.
Haha it aint such a bad place m8, i was born here moved down there when i was 12 think she thought she was doing me a kindness droppin me off where my roots were before stuffin off. its all good now tho got a stunnin little daughter here onwards an upwards
Well I don't like or can even stand them weedy smokers.. The stuff has the worst smell and you can smell it halfway down the road.. I smoke fags or backy but have never had the feeling to even smoke weed.. I know people that do smoke it but they smoke it at there own choice. I'm happy to smoke fags or backy. but I'm not gonna sign this as it will get banned anyway.
I thought that might kick up some mixed views . Personally i think the most dangerous thing about cannabis it is the criminal record that can come in situe with it,
Im not sure whether its a good thing or a bad thing legalization it hasnt done the usa's economy to bad at all, the legalization would have ups an downs i guess tax earned like fags an beer less spend outs on raids an imprisoning people,less cash for those dealers who use it to fund there future ventures in to the harder stuff to feed our kids, It probably would cost the nhs more. Buying legally would cost more to but be clean not shoddy homegrown dirty nutrient weed like mateys on about.
iv had my fair share of mad ones as a youth but the gateway drugs of it all were beer an fags not cannabis then on the heavier substances i didnt try any weed till after id been clubbin on tabs but like Norfe we all grow up one day, never been out robbing to fund anything tho dont agree with that at all.
Think i was about 22 23 when i knocked it all on the head. then in 2004 i was proper mr clean the mrs came up with this idea that i should give up my top job building luxury yachs an we should all move to stoke.
A few weeks after moving she told me she was off to see her mom back in essex for a few days with my son, an called me the next day to tell me shes with someone else now after 8 yrs,
so it kinda broke me losing my son, anyway after all this id ended up lockin myself away from the world an developing aggoraphbia an panicing about everything not goin to shops or feeding myself or really living at all I was under the doctor for years an years taking allsorts of meds an visits to the pychs, nothing sorted it out . So i gave up on all the stuff they were filling me with an saw the yanks on this medical weed biz an thought cant hurt to give it a go life couldnt get much worse.
it seemed to work in 09 i had found myself associating with people again getting out of the house id called a prison for years. got my ass to a cbt center an got on the road again now on to doing my full test living pretty normally. On to being able to get out with ease each day shop an feed myself without major panic attacks.
so in the end of it all i think it has to many good medical properties to not be availible, dependent on the person i suppose all i can say is it helped me. im not a drinker at all never have been , an now three weeks back i gave up fags too so mr cleans on the return lol.
im going to sign it anyway
That's too bad mate. Your not the only one who's had a set back. For the past year I've been suffering with anxiety and panic attacks. Tried a few medicines such as Propanolol but in the end decided that short term solutions ain't going to solve anything. Here I am still suffering but going Headstrong and trying mind over matter. I mean there was a day before I was ill where nothing bothered me, and I am to be there again.
I think we all get the anxiety to have a smoke wether it's any kind of drug or fag. So your not alone there!! I give up smoking for like 9months and every month i could just smoke a fag like i never stoped but then started up again..
