DT125R ARCHIVE

Harry · Guru

Anyone do there mod 1 on a dtr ?

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

Got my mod 1 on the 2nd and I'm doing it on my dt, anyone know if wing mirrors are essential??

Harry · Guru

Did mod 1 on honda cg, would have been so much better on a dt balance and handling wise really didn't make it easy for myself.

Did mod 2 on a dt, was fine just riding around like normal.

Don't give them any excuse to not let you not do it - mirrors, big size number plate, rear reflector, all indicators / lights working and big sized L plates.

+ tyre depth and chain tension, depending on who you have it might even be a mini mot inspection

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

Won't have indicators, and will have mirrors by then I hope! Didn't think of need plate ! Ill grab one today!

Harry · Guru

You obviously need them for mod 2 unless you want to hand signal everywhere (if that's even allowed)

Should be alright as you don't need to indicate anyway and technically they couldn't test the hand signalling

But, like I said I wouldn't give them any excuse know someone who wasn't allowed as he was using a gps speedo on his phone.

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

Well I'm pretty facked as I can't get a legal number plate as I don't have the v5 and dude at a bike shop over here reckons I can't do it on a dt

Reef · Guru

Phil get a numberplate through ebay, pretty sure you dont need to provide documents to them

Also you can do a dt, if its the restricted i know 125s can be used

No need for indicators on mod1, but with 2 id advise it, but surely it isnt illigel as as long as if you do appropiate hand signals at the right time you dont need indi's, but doing it on mod 2 without them..... You must be confident that your pass to say the least :)

If it was me (and planning not have indicators on the dt which you seem to want) me Id buy a cheap 4 set set of bub indicators off ebay with a relay (LEDS on a DT/most bikes can be so much hassle to get them working right) and wack on them on for the test and remove them after if thats what you want to do, be a lot more hassle to get all of the checks done blah blah without them IMO

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

I'd have to order that and with the Sunday and New Year's Day I don't think I'll get it in time as iv got it booked for the 2nd also will need mirrors and someone put what looks like an adapter on the right side which has a strange size external thread and I can't get it off for ****! Apparently there's a list of bikes you can/can't use for mod 1 n he reckons the dt is a no ! Only thing I can think off is do it with the training centre again and use there nails of bikes, but even then don't know if they will be able to get me booked in for both mod 1 & 2 before the law change ! Wish I got all this out the way earlier lol.

Reef · Guru

Didnt read that you had the test so close.... well yeah then unless you can use a bike from a dealership which offers using there bikes for the tests looks like your pretty fooked, why cant you get a new plate from somewhere local, can you not use the green slip which is given to you when buy a bike (part of the v5) as proof or dont you have that as well?

As with not being able to do the tests on the DT, thats total and utter crap lol, so many people on here which have done it on theirs, I would have done if my dt was running nice at the time, there chatting out there arsé

Yeah your deffo cutting it fine, ring around though if one place says all there slots have been booked up, each dealership which offers training buy slots in advance so obvioulsy one place could have no slots and others could have a few

AndyYam · Guru

BigPhil wrote:
Won't have indicators, and will have mirrors by then I hope! Didn't think of need plate ! Ill grab one today!

I hope you fail your test.

I'm sorry, thats a bit harsh and I only mean this time around... But you really to need to take a long hard think about whether you should be riding bikes.

Although the instructors follow a set of rules with regards to who passes and fails im sure they do sometimes use their discretion. If you turn up on a bike without indicators you will have to do arm signals in the correct way. If you turn up with an illegal number plate or any other defect on your bike that means it would not pass an mot then they are not going to allow you to ride under their supervision.

These people are very experienced riders and ride to a high level. They, and myself and other bikes, wouldnt want someone one the road who doesnt fully understand biking.

You shouldnt go booking your test until you've researched what you need to be able to do for it and you shouldnt be riding a bike without knowing whats legal, whats illegal and whats just stupid.

Go to a bike training school, pay the money, get the traning that will probably one day save your life and ride a bike thats maintained and has a set of mirrors!

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

Just had a look an yeah I do have that ! So could get plate I guess, but next hurdle is the wing mirror... Can't get this fackin nutt off for ****e!!! An of course my bike isn't restricted guess that won't matter ?

Harry · Guru

Oh for my mirrors the thread was knackerd, I just glued them in with araldite they held completely solid.

They have no idea what is restricted / not restricted they cannot test or prove anything and it really doesn't bother them to be honest. It will be absolutely fine on a DT

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

I said I won't have indicators because I won't need indicators for mod 1 and last time I tried to put them on They would just flash as hazards on the back and blow the main fuse, so getting a relay and trying to sort them all out with the terrible condition loom I have as I'm the 10th owner and it seems every owner has had a go at the electrics it becomes a bit of a ball ache for something that Isn't necessary. For mod 2 I will be using the training centres bike as I've already paid to for mod 2 but I failed mod 1 previously because I couldn't get to the required speed for the emergency stop, probably because the old 4 stroke honda with 50k on the clock and the blowing exhaust that's also leaking engine oil wouldn't get to speed by 1kmh !

I can tell you now that my bike is very much maintained and I'm not an idiot that buys a dt just to ride flat out everywhere in a t shirt and shorts just to look cool then sells it two weeks later, I only recently bout it hence the mirror issue and as I go to college and have a job so I'm always busy and haven't got around to sorting the wing mirror issue out yet. But thanks ill let you know if I fail.

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

Cheers for the help Harry

Reef · Guru

I see how it is, no cheers reefy!!!! ;)

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

Yeah you too mate ! Sorry haha. Stressing out about all this a bit !

NEV · Guru

BigPhil wrote:
also will need mirrors and someone put what looks like an adapter on the right side which has a strange size external thread and I can't get it off for ****!

Try undoing it the other way, clockwise, I'm sure the mirror adapters are left hand threads

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

Will try that mate cheers :)

ToySoldier · DTR Legend

i passed mot1 and 2 on my dt dident have mirrors for mod 1 but did for mod 2 didnt use em thou haha

as for indicators my rears stoped working wile out on mod 2 he pulled me over and told me and said iv i can do hand signals that would be fine just make sure you dont turn with your arm out then smiled

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

Ah right! Slightly relieved now haha. Cheers Toy

GADGET · Guru

+1 on what nev said ,I think only one is left handed thread ,it stops the mirror spinning loose from th wind ,chain guarded should be on th bike aswel as rear foot pegs ,good luck dude

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

Ah right I see.. Gunna go try it now! Dam iv not got rear foot pegs... Did you have them Toy ?

ToySoldier · DTR Legend

had chain guard but no rear pegs dont see why there needed mind

GADGET · Guru

It's a weird one I know but if you need it for mot then surely u need it for the test,you can get away with not having them for mot if the tester agrees it was originally made for offroad use ,as the seat is then classed as a single seat and with l-plates on u can't take passengers anyway so u can get away with the bike only being for one person then u don't need mirrors lights indies pegs chain guard etc etc

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

Got the adapter off cheers guys you were right ! Much appreciated. Typical that the mirrors I had hanging around didn't fit though ! Think I'm going to have to glue them in place lol...

GADGET · Guru

Good to hear u got the bugger off ,nevs a star I didn't even remember bout the threads till nev said it

u can get replacement adapters that have th right size threads ,probs from th same place u get ur plate

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

All you guys are a great help ! Ah right ok, Yeah hopefully mate

GADGET · Guru

Just take the old adapters and the new mirrors with u and I'm sure ull be fine

GADGET · Guru

Check this out it has PDF of all the bikes and category's ,it says a dtr is a2

https://www.gov.uk/motorcycle-practical-test/rules-for-mopeds-and-motorcycles-used-in-the-practical-riding-test

BigPhil · DTR Senior Member

Dunno weather that will effect anything ? I booked it or a light motorcycle which I assume is just a 125? The bike I used last time is classed as a a2 it looks