DT125R ARCHIVE

Victor · Guru

4stroke 125 commuter suggestion's

ToySoldier · DTR Legend

£500 to take your full licence then a grand will get you a nice big bike to comute on

Victor · Guru

Waiting till i'm 23 so i don't have to bother with the restriction again.

MDK · DTR Legend

gp100 - gs 125 -van van - sr 125 - -honda cm 125 - derbi senda 125 - lots of old scool 4 smokers out there just dont be tempted by these new chinese ****ters you will just lose money and spend many hours fixing things .

what style you after ?

comfort ? .. illbe back.. type of low rider www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-X-Suzuki-VL125-125cc-Custom-Black-/271442892175

taller pritty much same engine as above www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-VARADERO-125-XL125-125cc-2001-Y-PLATE-/121292943255

never seen or riden one of these MZ used to be slow but no idea on newer ones www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MZ-125-RT-125CC-MOTORCYCLE-12-MONTHS-TAX-TEST-/261444819844

cbr 125 are not bad little bikes www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html

xr 125 also ok www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html

Victor · Guru

Comfort i guess and MPG i'm looking at some cbr's on ebay at the moment they are pretty ugly though

Also want to be able to cruise at 60+ for some dual carriage way riding

Calum122 · Guru

I use my dt as a daily commuter. Not sure what the problem is. I warm the bike up as I ride it. Been doing this for absolutely years. Bike has never once failed me. So long as you don't get on it and thrash the tits off it from cold you'll be fine. Also a 4 banger needs warming up to. And I'd follow the same procedure. As for tyres I never changed the front tyre when I had it. And the rear wouldn't need changing on the avon distanzias.

I'm not sure where you're getting this start and go philosophy from? Every engine, 2,4,6 or wankel, will need warming up before use. The mechanically unsympathetic does not bother. Not grinding on you just puzzled as to the real reason you want a 125 4t. Amazing on fuel lol. And do make great commuters.

Victor · Guru

Calum122 wrote:
I use my dt as a daily commuter. Not sure what the problem is. I warm the bike up as I ride it. Been doing this for absolutely years. Bike has never once failed me. So long as you don't get on it and thrash the tits off it from cold you'll be fine. Also a 4 banger needs warming up to. And I'd follow the same procedure. As for tyres I never changed the front tyre when I had it. And the rear wouldn't need changing on the avon distanzias.

I'm not sure where you're getting this start and go philosophy from? Every engine, 2,4,6 or wankel, will need warming up before use. The mechanically unsympathetic does not bother. Not grinding on you just puzzled as to the real reason you want a 125 4t. Amazing on fuel lol. And do make great commuters.

I give mine 10 mins ticking over before i ride it and i'm knobblys which ware down fast on road.

I ride hard on Sunday's and can't afford to be off road on a Monday

I have been saving up for van so have some cash laying around i can put into a bike till i pass my driving test

Like the look of the v twin honda anybody had a go on one?

p.s i never warmed up any of my 4 stroke's and never had any problems, the DT will just splutter if it's not warm

-- Edited by Victor on Monday 7th of April 2014 08:52:09 PM

Calum122 · Guru

10 mins is over kill. There is a thermostat for a reason. Literally a whole minute and 5 minutes riding below 8k is plenty warming up. Do you know what the thermostat does? If you do then you'll realise that 10 minutes is well over what is necessary. The thermostat is there to reduce the time needed to warm the bike up.

I know the feeling about knobbleys. I had to get new tyres every month. Then I just got road tyres. Personally I would just get another set of wheel with knobbleys and one with road tyres. Just swap them over when you want to go off roading. To be fair I just went off roading on my distanzias.

Calum122 · Guru

It splutters because it's a carburettor engine and a shít carb st best. You want it to stop spluttering then put a better carb on it. To be fair still sounds like a weak excuse it splutters once when warming up and then it's good to go. It's the carb and stops doing it after it's been opened.

MDK · DTR Legend

yes had both the shadow and varadero

the shadow is pure comfort and not the fastist of bikes but im sure with a little modding or work you could get it to do 60-70

same with varadero is much the same great bikes and feel and look much bigger cc wise than they are .

the cbr is also a good bike but feels realy small and very thin

I would if you can go and view some local varaderos and maybe try get a test ride http://www.gumtree.com/search?q=varadero+125&category=motorbikes-scooters&search_location=United+Kingdom&current_distance=&motorbike_make=&vehicle_model=&vehicle_registration_year=&vehicle_mileage=&seller_type=&vehicle_engine_size=&min_price=&max_price=

-- Edited by MDK on Monday 7th of April 2014 09:04:58 PM

Victor · Guru

Calum122 wrote:
10 mins is over kill. There is a thermostat for a reason. Literally a whole minute and 5 minutes riding below 8k is plenty warming up. Do you know what the thermostat does? If you do then you'll realise that 10 minutes is well over what is necessary. The thermostat is there to reduce the time needed to warm the bike up.

I know the feeling about knobbleys. I had to get new tyres every month. Then I just got road tyres. Personally I would just get another set of wheel with knobbleys and one with road tyres. Just swap them over when you want to go off roading. To be fair I just went off roading on my distanzias.

All it does is open when your coolant get's to a certain temperature. I wait till it get's a little bit into the white, don't like the idea of warming it up under load

would be interested to know if you guy's just kick it over and go though?

-- Edited by Victor on Monday 7th of April 2014 09:32:28 PM

Calum122 · Guru

That certain temperature is when its warmed up lol. It's there to speed up thr warming up process. Under load is like putting it 6th wanging the throttle wide open whilst going up a hill. Riding softly on s flat bit of road with a bike thats warmed up for a few minutes is perfectly fine. It's a 125 not exactly s high performance machine. The bike is bullet proof, for a two stroke.

sebamax2 · Guru

yep calum is right :) get yourself some supermoto :D dont get the r125 tho and the cbr is like the worst choice with the skinny wheels looking silly

Victor · Guru

I know i said no more two stroke's but.... probably going to get ToySoldier's DT tomorrow. Same graphics as mine but he has sm'd it :)

slob · Guru

I just get on start it up. Ride with the choke on for about 30 secs.

Keep revs under 5k for 5 mins. I'm quite lucky cause my way to work is all downhill and where I start it is really steep for a mile and a half.

When you have the vapour stealth you relize the engine gets to a decent temprature quite quickly.

Rode the cbr on my CBT, insane mpg and I mean insane lol, rode all day and the needle never moved.

But as MDK says feels way to small and is slow as ****, but that would be cause it was restricted to 15 bhp or whatever stupid amount it is.

How is that safe not being able to go with the flow of traffic lmao!

tripr · Guru

i warm my 4strokes anyway before ripping them . still not good just shooting off from cold whatever the engine it is.

if your keeping the dt then just get a cheap chinky shiddading for commuting

supermoto styled tyres last longer even bridgestone tw's last a lot better than mx style tyres

Victor · Guru

Bought toy's bike today :) will be starting a project thread tomorrow. Also had a go on a gas gas 300 wkwkwkwk

tripr · Guru

good man with the sm setup too ,,,, GasGas make a mean bike i loved mine, really regret parting with it too. turns out the wr's just to much for where i like to take it offroad i dont fell like im heavy enough to get the power down to the ground as much as id like,, gonna end up hurting myself . forgot to cover the rear brake yesterday an it almost killed me lol just stood up straght an growled like an angry bear ,, I jumped off the back pretty stylishly F That lol

Luke · Guru

Use the £1,500 to buy a sumo setup. Keep the DTR setup for off-roading, I don't see the problem.

Rode my DT for in excess of 2,000 miles and pinned it the majority of the time.

No 4 stroke of 125CC will sit at 60MPH or over like a 2 stroke.

As Toy said do the test and suck up the restrictions for a bit, I would. You can get a 400CC at 19... I'd have a 400 for commuting and bin the L's on the DT, you get treated a lot better on the road without the L's. I'll be doing mine next year at 19. :D

Victor · Guru

Luke wrote:
Use the £1,500 to buy a sumo setup. Keep the DTR setup for off-roading, I don't see the problem.

Rode my DT for in excess of 2,000 miles and pinned it the majority of the time.

No 4 stroke of 125CC will sit at 60MPH or over like a 2 stroke.

As Toy said do the test and suck up the restrictions for a bit, I would. You can get a 400CC at 19... I'd have a 400 for commuting and bin the L's on the DT, you get treated a lot better on the road without the L's. I'll be doing mine next year at 19. :D

Should probably read my post's before looking silly lol

-- Edited by Victor on Friday 18th of April 2014 08:28:47 PM

2strokemx · Guru

The dt you use get it sm'd with the sm forks and all, the dtr ones are pants, forget the dt offroad time to grow up if you ride sundays get a dirt bike take it too your local practice track/enduro, thats what i would have done with the money

Luke · Guru

2strokemx wrote:
The dt you use get it sm'd with the sm forks and all, the dtr ones are pants, forget the dt offroad time to grow up if you ride sundays get a dirt bike take it too your local practice track/enduro, thats what i would have done with the money

There's a saying "more money than sense" but it's his money let him spend it how he likes. Spent £950 buying Toy's SM. Spent about a further £400 (that I can recall of) on parts, now it needs a new topend and he wants to do the bottom end as well, £350-400. Toy's bike is a 02 I think. So will sell for £1,000-£1,200. Could have done tests and got a big bike for that money. biggrin

But heck, his decisions, his money. And none of my business. smile

Victor · Guru

Luke wrote:
2strokemx wrote:
The dt you use get it sm'd with the sm forks and all, the dtr ones are pants, forget the dt offroad time to grow up if you ride sundays get a dirt bike take it too your local practice track/enduro, thats what i would have done with the money
There's a saying "more money than sense" but it's his money let him spend it how he likes. Spent £950 buying Toy's SM. Spent about a further £400 (that I can recall of) on parts, now it needs a new topend and he wants to do the bottom end as well, £350-400. Toy's bike is a 02 I think. So will sell for £1,000-£1,200. Could have done tests and got a big bike for that money.
But heck, his decisions, his money. And none of my business.

It was a bad move looking back on it but Toy left out a lot which is why it ended up costing more than planned.

No way will it sell for 1200 lol 1500 minimum, it has all new panels/clocks and it's a SM with a DTR set up spare

No doubt I will make a painful loss on it but I guess at least I won't have to worry about anything going wrong anytime soon.

It owes me about 1500 now so if i do the engine getting close to 2k

p.s dread sold his dtr 1500 no long ago, you won't find a good condition DTR for 1200

Calum122 · Guru

Luke wrote:
2strokemx wrote:
The dt you use get it sm'd with the sm forks and all, the dtr ones are pants, forget the dt offroad time to grow up if you ride sundays get a dirt bike take it too your local practice track/enduro, thats what i would have done with the money
There's a saying "more money than sense" but it's his money let him spend it how he likes. Spent £950 buying Toy's SM. Spent about a further £400 (that I can recall of) on parts, now it needs a new topend and he wants to do the bottom end as well, £350-400. Toy's bike is a 02 I think. So will sell for £1,000-£1,200. Could have done tests and got a big bike for that money.
But heck, his decisions, his money. And none of my business.

1-1.2K seems very low for a SM DTR. Sorry but where have you been buyin your bikes from. These bikes are commanding high money at the moment. It's approaching summer time and I'd be very surprised if it doesn't reach more than that. It definitely looks good from the photos.

MDK · DTR Legend

you always gona see a dtr that looks great and may sound ok for around or under 1k but we all know in most cases the seller knows it needs work soon and once you add new engine or rebuilds etc etc then you soon get closer to the true value .

that said I would never pay any of these prices for any 2000 or after dtr,s in my mind they do not have the same selling power as 89-to-99 and as for being sm it would make me want to pay less not more . its like a say 1989 classic car vs 2000 car not the same appeal or say a classic mini fitted with massive off road wheels it spoils the orginal feel or look of the bike or car .

the more orginal the bike is the better it is and say in another 20 years these moded dtrs are gona be worth not as much as the pure bikes ..
much like the fizzy they will call out to us older guys and remind us of our youth .

Calum122 · Guru

Yeah, whilst this is true I really don't think a 17 year old cares about any of that. For the moment they'll see it as a two stroke supermoto and that'll do. :D

I could have restored mine. But it was nicked smashed and abused. I would have spent a lot on it to return it to normal and I fancied something different.

It will always pain me NOT to have an original DTR i think. But I'm not going to cry about it.,

Luke · Guru

Toy's was nicked as well. But the thieves never managed to start it.

Oh and it was flipped, crashed and blown up (topend)...

Calum122 · Guru

Yeah true I forget you mention all the events your bikes been in in the advert.

Do you actually note every little thing about your bike.

Luke · Guru

Yup, I do. Got it wrote down here "October 5th, headlight bulb blew out, no high beam" for example.

ToySoldier · DTR Legend

Everything the bike has ever been throw is on this forum im sorry I forgot to mention things but at the time I was only listing the wheels as I planed to work on the bike sort some things out clean it up for the sale at a later date.

You paid 750 for the bike and 200 for a full sm setup yes it was used and a state but it was fully road legal with tax and mot would of passed a mot without a problem so you got a deal you decided to spend all that extra on it. You could of gone and painted the plastics to save some money if you wanted to.