DT125R ARCHIVE

no thats not the case

Sub-category A2 (standard motorcycle)

Sub-category A2 motorcycles used for tests must:

be a solo motorcycle
be at least 395cc
be between 20kW and 35kW engine power
have a power to weight ratio no more than 0.2kW/kg
If the engine power of the motorcycle has been restricted to fit sub-category A2, the normal unrestricted power cant be more than double its new restricted power.

If you have an A2 restricted motorcycle, you must bring proof of the restriction to your test, or it will be cancelled. It must be on headed notepaper from a main dealer, official importer or recognised specialist, and must show the motorcycles registration number.


this is what the requirements for the bike that im using are. other than that i wnt care about it. but if i want to use the husky to do my test on i will be forced to restrict it and get some sort of certificate.
btw what do they mean by recognised specialist? basically any motorcycle garage?

sebamax2 wrote:

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no thats not the case

Sub-category A2 (standard motorcycle)

Sub-category A2 motorcycles used for tests must:

be a solo motorcycle
be at least 395cc
be between 20kW and 35kW engine power
have a power to weight ratio no more than 0.2kW/kg
If the engine power of the motorcycle has been restricted to fit sub-category A2, the normal unrestricted power cant be more than double its new restricted power.

If you have an A2 restricted motorcycle, you must bring proof of the restriction to your test, or it will be cancelled. It must be on headed notepaper from a main dealer, official importer or recognised specialist, and must show the motorcycles registration number.


this is what the requirements for the bike that im using are. other than that i wnt care about it. but if i want to use the husky to do my test on i will be forced to restrict it and get some sort of certificate.
btw what do they mean by recognised specialist? basically any motorcycle garage?

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 So like i said, really you are paying for the paper...which you can't make yourself, so it's pointless? 

Yes any qualified mechanic can sign of the very expensive certificate that come's with these kit's, after you have handed over £$£ for him to fit it lmao

A guy on ebay use to sell the certificates signed/stamped and back dated a bit with you bike's reg/vin for about £45

My local school charges £30 an hour and you need 2 hours per test. 

Also need an hour to prove to them that you can ride the bike.

I passed last time with 1 lesson(in which I learned nill) so if you're confident just go for it 

Im glad I dont have to do it these days sounds like a nightmare. I passed my test on a DTR back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and that was it I could ride anything I wanted the same day if I could afford to buy and insure it

i wish i did my a2 when you was still allowed to do it on a 125

sebamax2 wrote:

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i know im paying for the paper proof but without it the examinator wnt allow me to use my bike on the day

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 What I'm saying is how will you get this paper if you make your own?

Maybe you cold pay to dyno it, then pay a garage to sign it off.

I really doubt the test instructor's will accept anything other than the officially recognized one though.

They don't make it easy for people  

Your best bet is probably just using a local school's bike unfortunately.

 

your local shool sounds cheep but when it comes to my school its 130 quid per day.

"where an individual machine has been restricted to comply with the minimum test vehicle requirements it will be accepted for test providing certified proof of compliance or restriction is available for the examiner. This must be a *certificate or on headed paper from an official source such as a main dealer, official importer or *recognised specialist in restricting vehicles. Dyno certificates are not acceptable." dsa.gov.uk

sebamax2 wrote:

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but recognised specialist its preatty much any garage that fits the restrictors

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 Yeh, but the garage can't magic up the FI International certificate you get with the official restrictor's.

I just don't think a piece of paper with a mechanic's word on it, will cut it when it comes to the test examiner's 

get a 400cc sport's bike, can't go wrong. rvf 400 wink wink

i had 2x nc29 and 1x zxr 400 and they are fun bikes but, i like my supermotos. plus thinking if i was to do my test on my bike. doing it on a vfr wnt really help. im 21 so i cnt do the A license just yet but than dont want to wait 3 years untill i can do it. I live in london so supermoto is just perfect for me to trash around the city. the 400 are cool but i recon i would have more fun on the dt than that vfr.

the reason i want to use my own bike is because
i spend 600 quid on a school thats going to train me for 2-3 days and than i only have one shot to pass on mod 1 and 2
i spend 600 quid using my own bike i have 2x shots to do mod 1 and 6 shots to do mod 2
giving a example callum did his a2 and passed the mod 2 second time around
im not saying im the same or anything but even if it takes 4 times for me to pass im still in the savings

Meh, you'll never notice the extra weight until you stop.

I rode a Dominator 650 albeit not legally, and had no trouble with it at all until I came to a stop but even then it wasn't a struggle. Just heavier than a 125.

Just forward planning, and clutch control. Once you nail them two, you're all set. Just need to remember your life savers (which you should already be doing subconsciously.)

Seems like a massive ball ache to me. Either way you wont be used to riding the bike until you do the test. If you pay for a 3 day intensive course with a riding school then you'll have been riding that bike for 2 days and be used to its controls, weight, throttle etc. These schools buy the easiest bikes to ride and learn on for a reason. Also you'll be getting the latest info on what is needed to pass your test and will also get some useful critique of your riding styles which could highlight a dangerous issue you have an ultimately save your life. ( NOT USING OR EVEN HAVING MIRRORS FITTED??!??!?!?!?!WHATTT?!??!?)

These riding schools are a business yes, and are out to make money but the people teaching are experienced bikers who ride every day and biking is their passion. Listen to their advice and they will help you no end. It really is worth the money. I assume you have only done a CBT so far? The CBT is good but is designed for 50cc-125cc bikes and tbh is outdated due to the power of some 125's. The training for the bigger tests are to make sure you are safe and able to ride the heavier and more powerful bikes. Its more in depth.

I rode my DT125R from 17-21 then did a 3 day course on an ER6N. Without the tips, support and guidance from the instructor I doubt I would have passed first time. It's easy to forget now but there were so many little things on the test route and the mod 1 that can catch you out. Not that they are particularly dangerous things that you might do but as with the car test they are on the instructors list to check and if you get it wrong its a minor/major.

The mod 2 route will also be planned by the instructor to TEST YOU. They cant follow you round all day for a week so they throw in some curve balls to see how you deal with it on the day.

You said yourself that many of the bikes you rode had no mirrors. On your 2 days of traning the school will hammer you everytime you dont use your mirrors and thats what you will need to pass the test ( amongst others). If you fail to use your mirrors, dont do the correct life saver at the correct time, dont stay in lane on roundabouts, hesitate at junctions
( my 2 minors... -.- ), fail to indicate.....the list goes on....then you'll pick up points and fail the test.

Whether its because you want to ensure you pass or because you want the training to make sure you are a safe rider...get some lessons/a course.

Have to agree with andy am currently doing my a licence using a training school.they give u alot of useful tips for the tests and know them inside out.plus as ive found you have to be at a very high standard for the tests.i booked a 4 session intensive course which was £379 but I dont live in london.can see what your saying about more goes at the test but if your not up too the test standard you could easily fail 6 times and it would be money wasted.at least if u go through a training place they will tell you if your ready.plus it is alot of fun