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As far as I know the differences are the front forks, brakes, and the wheels/tyres. Are there any other differences between the DTX and other models?

From what I could see on ebay the other day, a good DTX is around £1500. Does that sound about right?

What I'm trying to work out is how hard it is to get hold of the DTX forks/brakes/wheels, and wether it works out better to just buy a DTX or buy a different model and convert it.

Are there any differences in the frame/swingarm/etc... between the older models (early 1990s) up to around 2000?

 

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i bought a r model because i like them better then got a set of wheels for £130 then forks for £70 and caliper for £15 that was me set =]

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The older model 1989 are quicker. They also have a much nice charcol grey engine. Which I think looks lush. The DTX has a black swingarm and clear indicator lenses. Stubbier mudguard (I think). To be fair not much difference really. Just Asthetics.

The old 1989 frame is different from the other models as well. I'd say better off injecting the money and buy the DTX if that's what you want. Much less hassle. I'd say 1500+ would be to find a decent DTX. Because of there age and desireness they're worth a bit.

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How much did that set you back all together mate? Including the bike itself?

The reason I ask this in the first place is because I want to buy a bike to use off road in a field or whatever to teach myself how to ride. But if I buy a supermoto it wont be much good on a field, whereas if I get a normal DT, I can ride it off road with the standard wheel/tyre setup then switch to SM when I want to put it on the road. :)

I've seen quite a few early 90's DT's on ebay for cheap so I'm tempted to go for an older model, but I'd want to change the mudguards etc... and of course the supermoto bits, and I think it may well end up costing more than it's worth.

I can't remember the name of the person who owns it but I think they're on this site, the white 1989 DT with hpires mudguards/polisport light, looks absolutely amazing!

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The admin Seiki lol. Lush DT. His bike is a bike of which my dreams are made off!

You want to learn how to ride a bike???

Mate it really isn't too difficult. You'll learn faster riding on the road than you will over a field. Took me about 5 minutes to get used to my first bike. Went off roading about a week later and learned nothing! Better you learn on the road otherwise you might get ****y and miss vital learning curves. You'll end up treating the road like you treat the off road. Best to take a nice easy slow approach to things,

If you mean learn to ride off road then thats a different ball game. Two strokes aint for the faint hearted no matter how tame. Off roading a 2 stroke is a lot more fun but you're better off learning on a 4 stroke if it's just off road useage. Plus the DT is just too heavy to really learn too much. Need something quicker and light. Best money can buy would be a KTM SX. They are stupid! But 2 stroke so not very good for learning lol.

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The reason I need to ride off road is because I got banned from driving. :( I've been driving cars for 4 years and always wanted a bike so now this is the perfect excuse to buy one and a bike project or a bit of casual riding on the weekends will give me something to do.

I'm not interested in motocross or anything like that, I just want some open ground to ride around on. Much easier to find a field than to find a good piece of tarmac lol.



-- Edited by ste91 on Tuesday 1st of May 2012 09:43:40 AM

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your banned from driveng and I think you are about to make things worse if you get cought off roading on council fields ect ?

not a car user myself so not sure of the law but if your banned from cars are you not banned from useing any vehicle on the roads ?

if you realy want to learn and learn right pay £100 and do your cbt on a geard 125 a full day rideing on the road will learn you all you need to know

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Pretty sure so long as it's private property he's alright. We ask the farmers if we could use their fields. They're usually happy since it turfs up the mud.

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Calum is right - I know a few people with fields it's just a case of asking their permission. Then it's all good.

Can't do the CBT yet as being banned from driving means you are banned from everything. The plan is to buy a bike, teach myself to ride, bit of fun on the weekends, then once the ban is up I'll do the CBT straight away and get on the road. :)

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Just out of curiosity, why was you banned?

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biggrincuz DTR's are unique, i can spot a DTR a mile away

dtre/x are nice bikes, but look similar to other bikes from a distance

if you like old school like me get a dtr

personally i like a DT to look like a DT , instead of cutting fairings and changing headlights, some of the portugese DT's are nice bikes but to me they aint a DT when they have lost all Originaltiy, DTRs are getting rarer

 



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Lol Nathlaad was waitin for somethin funny off you haha I've been reading through quite a few topics on the forum the past few days trying to learn a bit about DT's and I've had a few laughs off your posts. biggrin

I'd rather not write why I was banned on a public forum but if anyone REALLY wants to know then I'll PM you.

Anyhow back to the original question - am I better off buying a DTX or converting a DTR?



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convert a dtr mate, stick with the old school shape, look loads better, pic the bits up for 200 ish 4-700 on a dtr for a grand u cud build a nice one

or spend 15-2000 on a sm and be the same as every one else, always nicer to build sumet diffrerntbiggrin



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Sounds good to me, a conversion would be ideal because I could ride the bike on the standard wheels on a field, then when I come up to the last couple of months of the ban I'd strip the bike down and build it back up as a supermoto, cleaning/repainting/fixing things as I go.

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there u are then...problem solved

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/yamaha-dt-125-none-runner-stunning-bike-/270963638521?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3f16b100f9#ht_500wt_1287



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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-YAMAHA-DT-125-R-BLUE-/251050029931?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a73bf736b



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Seen a few good ones on ebay, I nearly bought a 1989 model for £400 the other week but it had no log book.

One thing I can't stand about the older DT's is that bloody front mud guard, it's ugly lol will have to change it for a newer one.

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Bought mine like this last year

Did a total strip down and rebuild to get it to Enduro spec

Then on to Supermoto spec

Takes about half an hour to swap back to off road wheels if needed



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I love that, seen it around the net a few times now. Are they the standard front forks? And standard DTX wheels?

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Aye standard DTR forks, with 1992 TDR 125 Italia wheels, (stainless spokes as standard), TDR 320mm front disc, DTX Brembo twin pot caliper

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Do the TDR Italia wheels fit straight on? (And will the normal TDR 3 spoke wheels also fit?)

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better ask Tripr how that worked out with the 3 spokes



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To get the TDR Italia wheels to fit, I had to shorten the front wheel spacer by about 6mm, and had to have another spindle made adding 13mm to the shank, so that the thread came all the way through the left fork.

Plus I made a bracket so I could fit the DTX Brembo for the TDR disc




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Trip were having problems trying to get his 3 spoked TDR wheels to fit, last time I heard.

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Think I'll probably just hunt down a DTX front end, I presume it bolts straight up to the frame with no hassle.

BTW cheers for the help lads. :)

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Also I wanted to ask, what do these bikes actually handle like, compared to something like a TZR 125 for example? Is the suspension much softer?

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tzr is a road bike, dtr is enduro so cant really compare them

shurup moaning like a girl and get one bought ull love it biggrin



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tzr is a road bike, dtr is enduro so cant really compare them

shurup moaning like a girl and get one bought ull love it biggrin


 It'll be like comparing a dirt car to a race car. Built for different purposes.



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I'm not moaning :D just wondering, as I've seen loads of people talking about SM's out handling sport bikes (mainly on twisty roads/tracks) because they are lighter, easier to chuck around, etc..,

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