As far as I know the differences are the front forks, brakes, and the wheels/tyres. Are there any other differences between the DTX and other models?
From what I could see on ebay the other day, a good DTX is around £1500. Does that sound about right?
What I'm trying to work out is how hard it is to get hold of the DTX forks/brakes/wheels, and wether it works out better to just buy a DTX or buy a different model and convert it.
Are there any differences in the frame/swingarm/etc... between the older models (early 1990s) up to around 2000?
The older model 1989 are quicker. They also have a much nice charcol grey engine. Which I think looks lush. The DTX has a black swingarm and clear indicator lenses. Stubbier mudguard (I think). To be fair not much difference really. Just Asthetics.
The old 1989 frame is different from the other models as well. I'd say better off injecting the money and buy the DTX if that's what you want. Much less hassle. I'd say 1500+ would be to find a decent DTX. Because of there age and desireness they're worth a bit.
How much did that set you back all together mate? Including the bike itself?
The reason I ask this in the first place is because I want to buy a bike to use off road in a field or whatever to teach myself how to ride. But if I buy a supermoto it wont be much good on a field, whereas if I get a normal DT, I can ride it off road with the standard wheel/tyre setup then switch to SM when I want to put it on the road. :)
I've seen quite a few early 90's DT's on ebay for cheap so I'm tempted to go for an older model, but I'd want to change the mudguards etc... and of course the supermoto bits, and I think it may well end up costing more than it's worth.
I can't remember the name of the person who owns it but I think they're on this site, the white 1989 DT with hpires mudguards/polisport light, looks absolutely amazing!
The admin Seiki lol. Lush DT. His bike is a bike of which my dreams are made off!
You want to learn how to ride a bike???
Mate it really isn't too difficult. You'll learn faster riding on the road than you will over a field. Took me about 5 minutes to get used to my first bike. Went off roading about a week later and learned nothing! Better you learn on the road otherwise you might get ****y and miss vital learning curves. You'll end up treating the road like you treat the off road. Best to take a nice easy slow approach to things,
If you mean learn to ride off road then thats a different ball game. Two strokes aint for the faint hearted no matter how tame. Off roading a 2 stroke is a lot more fun but you're better off learning on a 4 stroke if it's just off road useage. Plus the DT is just too heavy to really learn too much. Need something quicker and light. Best money can buy would be a KTM SX. They are stupid! But 2 stroke so not very good for learning lol.
The reason I need to ride off road is because I got banned from driving. :( I've been driving cars for 4 years and always wanted a bike so now this is the perfect excuse to buy one and a bike project or a bit of casual riding on the weekends will give me something to do.
I'm not interested in motocross or anything like that, I just want some open ground to ride around on. Much easier to find a field than to find a good piece of tarmac lol.
-- Edited by ste91 on Tuesday 1st of May 2012 09:43:40 AM
Pretty sure so long as it's private property he's alright. We ask the farmers if we could use their fields. They're usually happy since it turfs up the mud.
Calum is right - I know a few people with fields it's just a case of asking their permission. Then it's all good.
Can't do the CBT yet as being banned from driving means you are banned from everything. The plan is to buy a bike, teach myself to ride, bit of fun on the weekends, then once the ban is up I'll do the CBT straight away and get on the road. :)
cuz DTR's are unique, i can spot a DTR a mile away
dtre/x are nice bikes, but look similar to other bikes from a distance
if you like old school like me get a dtr
personally i like a DT to look like a DT , instead of cutting fairings and changing headlights, some of the portugese DT's are nice bikes but to me they aint a DT when they have lost all Originaltiy, DTRs are getting rarer
Lol Nathlaad was waitin for somethin funny off you haha I've been reading through quite a few topics on the forum the past few days trying to learn a bit about DT's and I've had a few laughs off your posts.
I'd rather not write why I was banned on a public forum but if anyone REALLY wants to know then I'll PM you.
Anyhow back to the original question - am I better off buying a DTX or converting a DTR?
Sounds good to me, a conversion would be ideal because I could ride the bike on the standard wheels on a field, then when I come up to the last couple of months of the ban I'd strip the bike down and build it back up as a supermoto, cleaning/repainting/fixing things as I go.
To get the TDR Italia wheels to fit, I had to shorten the front wheel spacer by about 6mm, and had to have another spindle made adding 13mm to the shank, so that the thread came all the way through the left fork.
Plus I made a bracket so I could fit the DTX Brembo for the TDR disc
I'm not moaning :D just wondering, as I've seen loads of people talking about SM's out handling sport bikes (mainly on twisty roads/tracks) because they are lighter, easier to chuck around, etc..,