hi im due in court on the 18th for exceeding 30mph namely 60 mph in a 30ph. i have been disqualified for a year before and 6 months .for these i was given 12 points which got me the totting up ban .i now have no points on my licence so whats likely to happen ? has anyone been done for this speed before? .i wish id had run i was well ahead :(
i got 3 points and a 60 quid fine off a T5 for doing 63 in a 30 but my brother got 6 points and a 120 quid fine in court doing 41 in a 30 zone camra van got him so i dont think you will get banned
Dont look good to me if they are insisting you go to court then they are , wanting to give you a sorting because of your previous , they don't like being ignored and that's what they think you are doing , you are not learning your lesson in their eyes , so not good m8 , lad I know got 2 year ban and 3 month inside on his last do for 64 mph in a 30 with 2 bald tyres on a car , and he like you had previous , his license was like a novel ,
i definetely wont go to prison for it ,and have 3 endorsements on my licence from 2010 this was driving without a licence and insurance i was given a 6 month ban i then 2 weeks later got caught again which was a setup by the police and i had my car which was a vauxhall omega 3.0 v6 full leather the works crushed ,i was given a further 6 points which then gave me an automatic totting up ban . i havent been done for any other motoring offence since i have learnt my lesson and have since got myself legal hence why im stuck on a 125 otherwise things would have been very different , i spoke to a solicitor today and he said that the court wont like my previous convictions and they may look at a short term ban instead of points which id rather have as the bikes off the road at the moment and has turned into a project .so all in all im most probably getting banned £1,000 fine and a high insurance bit pissed off with it all to be honest it was 1.30 in the morning i was freezing cold and i wanted to get back .i saw mr piggy coming towards me and thought nuh its just a car cant be the filth so i carried on hammering it then blue lights and sirens **** happens
First off, you plonker! Stick to the speed limits in 30's! nationals are the place to go a bit wild but you still have to accept the consequences if you get caught.
In all honesty it doesnt look good. Show you understand the mistake and dangers of speeding and look sad! haha
Wonder if a bit better observation and a pair of mirrors might have come in handy , Ha Ha well if your solicitor is right then you will have done well I think
i spoke to a solicitor today and he said that the court wont like my previous convictions and they may look at a short term ban instead of points
Mate depending on how good your brief is and of course you have kept out the way continous driving convictions for a certain period of time. Your brief maybe able to fight your corner to say that your previous offences was commited several years ago e.g 5 years.
The brief can ask the courts to take into account the time you had not been delt with for these type of offences via the police or courts.
If however there is no real gap / Time period then they will want to fine/ban you and most definately fine you and incur court costs.
But prison for just for that type of driving offences isn`t really considered to be a punishable offence by imprisonment if your not on a ban that is
But however if your are already on a ban then you are treading a thin line with freedom / jail as the courts clearly tell anyone who they ban from driving if they get caught again whilst on a ban it is and can be a punishable offence & can be sent to jail and still be fined aswell.
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stillbroke wrote: i explained to him that due to the very high level of speed i had no option but to summons him to court
for the offence as a fixed penalty notice or speed awareness course were not appropriate options for that speed .
the weather was clear and dry at the time of the incident,but the road surface was damp from light rain which had fallen earlier in the night .
See 60mph in built up isn`t good. He could of give you a ticket for that But what is perticurly intresting is the road surface being wet or damp as he put it. Because the police have responsibilty to tell the courts and ask then to take into account any other mitigateing circumstances that happened on the day and at time the offence/offences took place.
Did you have nobblies on or not. If you did they would say about how knobblies even being road legal the stopping time isn`t as good as normal road tyres in the wet. But even having normal tyres on it still doesn`t help as you would have longer stopping time due to the fact it being damp. So they look at the factor sides of things speed/conditions/tyres/risk factors. So they see it as driving at speed in a built up area on a damp/wet road conditions poses a risk to yourself and other road users
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no m8 i didnt go to court just got a ticket but the t5 driver did say u can go to court or accept the points and fine. i dont think you will get banned tho
i spoke to a solicitor today and he said that the court wont like my previous convictions and they may look at a short term ban instead of points
Mate depending on how good your breif is and of course you have kept out the way continous driving convictions for a certain period of time. Your brief maybe able to fight your corner to say that your previous offences was commited several years ago e.g 5 years.
The breif can ask the courts to take into account the time you had not been delt with for these type of offences via the police or courts.
If however there is no real gap / Time period then they will want to fine/ban you and most definately fine you and incure court costs.
But prison for just for that type of driving offences is not a prisionable offence if your not on a ban is very unlikely
But if you are already on a ban then you are treading a thin line with freedom / jail as the courts clearly tell anyone who they ban from driving if they get caught again whilst on a ban it is a punishable offence & can be sent to jail and still be fined aswell.
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my last conviction was 14.05.2010 i only managed to get advice today over the phone hes quoted me £675 till the end of proceedings and its just not worth it i just really want to avoid a 12 month ban i couldnt deal with that
I know what your saying mate I hoped you do get a fine. And to be honest it all depends on the day type of mags deal with you and at times the court you attend in Birmingham I have had more leanancy from one mags court for driving offences as they deal with driving offences alot regulary than another court. If you don`t get a ban I think you need to stay clear of getting caught as I feel that if you keep getting caught you will leave them no alternative than to hand out more serious penalties unfortunatley mate
on wednesday 7th november 2012 i was on uniformed mobile patrol in an unmarked police traffic vehicle.this vehicle is fitted with a calibrated speedometer.at around 01:30
hours that day i was driving along the a317 eastworth road in chertsey,close to the junction with victory road,when i could hear and see a motorcycle coming towards me in
excess of the 30mph speed limit. the vehicle passed me and i turned round and began to catch the vehicle up.
as i followed the vehicle , we travelled along the a317 eastworth road and a317 pyrcroft road, where i noted the speed of the vehicle to me travelling at 60mph in a 30mph area .i followed the vehicle at a set distance of around 75 meters for around a quarter of a mile at this speed.the motorcycle then slowed on approach to the roundabout junction with the a30
i continued to follow the motorcycle and eventually stopped it on the thorpe by-pass
where i could see the registration to be pj03 uex.
i spoke to the driver who gave his details as ************************************************
garnham producedhis photo card driving licence to me, licence number***********
i explained what i hd seen and garnham agreed he was exceeding the 30mph limit byquite alot.
at 1:59 hours i said '' I AM REPORTING YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE QUESTION OF PROSECUTING YOU FOR THE OFFENCE OF SPEEDING,NMELY 60MPH IN A 30MPH'' and cautioned him,to which he made no reply. GARNHAM then signed my e-notebook (digital pocket note book).
whilst dealing with garnham.he was polite and well mannered.he was apologetic for the manner of his riding and appearwed genuinely remorseful.
i explained to him that due to the very high level of speed i had no option but to summons him to court
for the offence as a fixed penalty notice or speed awareness course were not appropriate options for that speed .
the weather was clear and dry at the time of the incident,but the road surface was damp from light rain which had fallen earlier in the night .
the section of road where i detected garnhams speed is a single carriageway 30mph urban area with a series of street lamps positioned along the road.
another 5 to 10 more mph and its easy to have a case thrown out of mags as if they felt the case would be justified better with a higher penality, than they are allowed to giveout. Can quite easily be chucked to Crown. If a driver drives at high speeds through residental areas at 70mph or above its classed as Dangerous Driving code (DD10) would appear on your licence after its be revoked as Dangerous driving carries an instant ban just the same as Drink Driving. It is the guideliness that anyone caught commiting these type offences. Have to be put before the courts & they will recieve an instant ban fine or imprisionment or both of course alot depends on the mitigating circumstances of each indivdual case as some Drink & Dangerous driving offences are far more serious than others. If you have a valid reason and it wasn`t for a long period of time you can recieve a less harsher punishment if you are caught driving dangerously or even drinking and driving. I here you say hows that lol. You can get your brief to give a reason in which your circumstances of doing this was exceptional. Like fear of your own life and safety use a vehicle to get your self to a safer place, but you gotta have strong evidence to support this reason. Not some bull story that you made up that day some chav was chasing you up the road. But it has been used and fought in English Law and people have won due to law being broken under exceptional & extreme circumstances. But unfortunetly mate this is not the case with you. Look watever happens it won`t be forever and we all have to debts to pay. Hopefully it won`t happen again to you, as thats what its all about to make people think more when they Drive / Ride vehicles any vehicles irresponsibly and thats how the courts view matters.
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Gotta be honest, doing 60 in a 30 isn't good anyway hope you learn your lesson and the punishment isnt too severe!
You know you ****ed up when Nath is giving you sympathy.
But seriously, 60 in a 30 and you're worried about a ban? and with all the other stuff you've been caught for. obviously you don't give a **** so why are you crying?
suck your mum seany!,and yea i am worried about it as back then i wasnt legal in the slightest now i am it bothers me
If it bothered you that much you wouldn't have done it, face it you're only worried because you might have to go back to being unlicensed and looking over your shoulder for the ANPR cars aren't you ;)
