DT125R ARCHIVE

Calum122 · Guru

RE: Easier way to access this site (hope admin doesnt mind)

SkinBobUk · DTR Respected Member

I suppose, hard to judge how busy this place is.

I was just going off experience from a gaming clan i'm a member of.

Boxing · Guru

The gaming clans are probably hosted using sites such as PhpBB, so all the threads, posts and user account can be downloaded within seconds in the SQL panel and put on to another site. It's very easy. MySQL back-up, then import on a new site. Done.

But this site is running on activeboard, and I haven't got a clue if they allow site owners to grab the SQL data or not.

If forum gets its own hosting etc, it should use PhpBB.

SkinBobUk · DTR Respected Member

Reading up there is converters for the database to convert from this to phpbb.

Seiki · Admin

If it's possible then i'm up for it, this Activeboard host wouldn't have been my 1st choice as you cant do jack with it.

So how does this work? There's no way i'm up for moving things one by one but if it can be done an easier way then ...

Keep in mind when i'm siht at this.

With a proper site and proper link to the site this place could get a lot of traffic, it used to.

SkinBobUk · DTR Respected Member

I'll look a bit further into it now for you Seiki.

I agree if it can't be done all in one then it wouldn't be worth it.

Seiki · Admin

Thanks man tbh if it is a bit more work I wouldn't mind but thread by thread will be too much

Boxing · Guru

It all depends. All forums have different SQL databases, they're all different, it's hard to explain if you aren't a boffin in computer coding or website making.

But most sites are setup with one type of program like PhpBB, then backed up and moved straight over to a new site, using their SQL back-up.

I guess Activeboard allow some sort of back-up of data sort of thing? If its in SQL, you need to look into the rows and probably rename and add rows. Complicated stuff if you've never done it.

Easiest option would probably be to buy a domain, some hosting then install PhpBB then start fresh. And tell all the members to move over to there. As soon as a load of de-restricting posts are up, the traffic would come flooding in. Most people seem to be looking how to de-restrict DT's and tune them. Of course the IMG tags are the same on PhpBB, so project threads can be copied straight over, if you leave the activeboard up. wink

-- Edited by Boxing on Sunday 31st of March 2013 01:18:40 AM

SkinBobUk · DTR Respected Member

Well looking into it and its a ****.

Activeboard don't use standard phpbb sql databases and dont give you a backup of them anyway.

There are crawlers and converters that can do the above, but im still working on getting it working. So i'll keep trying and let you know.

Boxing above is right tho.

With a phpbb forum google could index it for results which would lead to more search results and more visitors.
Also phpbb offer other features such as image galleries, chatboxes, proper market place with feedback, and many more. Oh and its a hell of a lot faster.

NEV · Guru

Throwing this forum site on to the table to have a look at , there's also a chat feature in there.

http://yamahaclub.com/forums/

-- Edited by NEV on Sunday 31st of March 2013 01:35:44 PM

coastie123 · DTR Senior Member

I used to be a member of omega owners forum and they use phpbb, nice boards, post counts got the for sale/wanted sections etc...

Here have a nosey http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php

Calum122 · Guru

And a mobile version of that site nev which is handy.

Seiki remember moderators can co-ordinate the move.

We wouldnt need to translate the junk. Just the tutorials and what not. Useful.

NEV · Guru

I know the admin on that site uses memberships to help with the running costs, but I for one wouldn't complain if there was to be a nominal membership charge

NEV · Guru

How much were you thinking of paying Log? as in how much is too expensive for people to pay toward running costs?

-- Edited by NEV on Monday 1st of April 2013 12:26:34 AM

coastie123 · DTR Senior Member

NEV wrote:
I know the admin on that site uses memberships to help with the running costs, but I for one wouldn't complain if there was to be a nominal membership charge

I'm with nev on that one!!

NEV · Guru

You also need to be a paid member to be able to buy and sell on there too, plus there's a section on there where discounts for paid members only on certain sites, but that would need working on. .

Ralzy · Guru

+1 also perhaps this will help with the skankers aswell as they will have to pay in the first place before they could even contemplate in having someone over. Yes it could still happen but its just been far to easy for them to join and mug someone off in the past. I know there has been a shake up in how members can sell now but its another hurdle they have to get over before even get the chance to try doing it to anyone

Boxing · Guru

NEV wrote:
I know the admin on that site uses memberships to help with the running costs, but I for one wouldn't complain if there was to be a nominal membership charge

I'd rather have a free sign-up process, then have to pay to become a "VIP" or something, and this allowing you to visit certain parts of the forum, such as selling and buying. And maybe even more stuff, but not to the point you cannot get any help without paying to sign-up, that'll decrease the traffic rather than gain it. wink

You have to think from a new users perspective, you've just bought a DT, know jack about them and need help. You'll go to a forum that you don't have to pay for rather than one where a memebership cost is in place.

I'm all in paying for a VIP status or something. Or "premium" user. It all depends on what the owner wants to call this feature. Perhaps get one of them titles below your username saying "VIP/Premium member" like for Moderators?

NEV · Guru

I totally agree I'm a paid member on the Yamaha Owners Club forum, it gains me the 'privilege ' of buying and selling in there, plus other discounts in there. the tech info is still freely available to non paid members.

SkinBobUk · DTR Respected Member

All great ideas above. I especially like the paid access to buy / sell.

Just another thought but why not open the forum to all Yamaha 125 bikes?
There must be hundreds if not thousands of people using them, in the long run this could lead to a huge Yamaha 125 club. Then the bigger the club the easier it is to persuade companies to give us discounts, etc.

Boxing · Guru

SkinBobUk wrote:
All great ideas above. I especially like the paid access to buy / sell.

Just another thought but why not open the forum to all Yamaha 125 bikes?
There must be hundreds if not thousands of people using them, in the long run this could lead to a huge Yamaha 125 club. Then the bigger the club the easier it is to persuade companies to give us discounts, etc.

There would be nothing but arguments, especially as the traffic improved. "4-stroke is better than 2" and all that.

And "My YBR is faster than your DT!" it'd be annoying.

eG x LoGiKzZ · Guru

i dont like the idea of paying, 17 year olds who have just bought their first bike, they wont want to pay to join up to a forum, its good how it is imo

eG x LoGiKzZ · Guru

i think a fiver would be reasonable for a year? but if its paying to access the whole site i think that will put some people off joining, i joined up before i had a dt and i wouldnt of been able to or wanted to pay then, the vip thing isnt such a bad idea if its not limiting the information u can find about the bikes

Ralzy · Guru

If a joining up payment was introduced couldn`t a trial basis be implemented in some way. Say a 2 weeks to a months trial. Software companies do this so the user gets the feel of the software in this case the user would get the feel of the forum. They would see all useful tech information that is available to them aswell that way. So they can see what they are getting for their fee

Boxing · Guru

Site would make more money in ads, if we get high traffic. Site would probably make more money in ads than a pay to signup policy.

Costs about £5-£15 to run the site for a year. When I last checked at least.

SkinBobUk · DTR Respected Member

Boxing is rightish.

A proper .com domain is around a tenner a year, then some decent hosting is a few quid a month.

Then say £5 VIP membership to access the classified section. That would cover the costs.

I don't think there would be arguments about ybr's being quicker than dt's if the forum was opened up to all Yamaha 125's. If anything I think I'd would inspire more people to buy dt's and the like. Plus it would lead to more hybrid bikes with differant engines, mods, etc.

Il look into what other forums are out there. We could be missing out on a lot of potential members.

-- Edited by SkinBobUk on Monday 1st of April 2013 12:01:02 PM

Calum122 · Guru

Or maybe a deposit holding fee.

Say you pay £10 holding fee to a new Paypal account setup by the admin. This is held until you leave the forum. Then when you leave you ask seiki to close your account and refund your deposit.

Probably very long winded but its a nice idea. And that way if you were to get ripped off. Seiki could return the deposit to you. So at least you get something rather than nothing.

Seiki · Admin

just let me know what to do guys, a one of payment of a £10-£20 isnt anything but ive always liked to idea of free info. vip thing sounds cool too.

Tbh im not a fan of dealing with peoples money because theres too many nice things out there to buy with it. I cancelled my paypal account years ago because im a paranoid old fart.

As I say i dont mind making the first payment then opening a sort of donate thing if it works out.

Reef · Guru

.....Id hate to see it opened up to all 125 yammy owners, think it would kill our little beasty community.

But yeah a different site with better features would ovviously be better, even at a little cost, think it would be best to keep it free for members though, us main ones can all chip in a bit of money though, wouldnt be that much a year, and so long we can transfer all the useful info on here then i'd be all for it

SkinBobUk · DTR Respected Member

Seiki wrote:
just let me know what to do guys, a one of payment of a £10-£20 isnt anything but ive always liked to idea of free info. vip thing sounds cool too.

Tbh im not a fan of dealing with peoples money because theres too many nice things out there to buy with it. I cancelled my paypal account years ago because im a paranoid old fart.

As I say i dont mind making the first payment then opening a sort of donate thing if it works out.

Ill look into the best hosting, etc.

Has anyone got ideas for domains?

Dt125.com? dt125r.com?