DT125R ARCHIVE

Ralzy · Guru

section 59

lee_92 · DTR Respected Member

well i got a sec59 today and i wasnt really in the rong. i was ridng behind a few "random people" on mx bikes on the road and as we were coming up to a set of traffic lights i seen a police bike so as i was watching what he was going to do i looked forward to see a car stopping so i strated to brake hard and the rear wheel locked. when i pulled over for him he asked who the people on the other bikes were and i told him i didnt know and he said that if i didnt help him he wouldnt help me so i told him i couldnt tell him there names as i didnt know them so he gave me a sec59. what do you think my chances are if i appeal it ???

ToySoldier · DTR Legend

you can not apeal a section 59 had the hole thing with my wheelie and got one

they are down to the officers decression and can even be given for reports nath got one for the noise of his drz from reports

Ralzy · Guru

section 59 i hear you can`t appeal but this is such a thing as not accepting the sect 59 accepting it is as good as admitting to what they are saying you have done.
Personally if I had done nothing wrong I would want to know the reason im being given a sect 59 if i disagreed with what he was saying then take me to court I will thrash it out there. I can`t understand why you accepted a sect 59 for not giving names of people you don`t know.

lee_92 · DTR Respected Member

well he said that hit was for careles driving because i nearly hit the car infront. ok then mite have to calm down a bit now then lol

Ralzy · Guru

It looks that way unfortunetly mate

KenDOG · DTR Senior Member

Rear wheel is easy to lock up on these light 125's especially with enduro tyres!
Sounds like he thought he would get you to do the leg work to catch them, shame but unfortunately with dt's looking like offroad bikes and sounding like them to some people we are the enemy I have have had my fair share of hacky looks and even been stopped by a community support officer because he thought it was me in the football field doing doughnuts.

Nathlaad · DTR Legend

Biggest pile of **** ever, "oh yeah, we have no proof it was you at all we just take the word of a random person, also if you get another within 12 months, we will scrap your bike" bunch of whoppers

Luke · Guru

If a cop was trying to give me a Section 59 for no reason other than "not helping" them locate some MX riders they'd get a mouthful and a whole load of reasons why not to.

I'd take the fucker to the IPCC.

Did you get any paperwork with the Section 59?

As for you riding with MX bikes, stupidity at its greatest there. Or take your number plate off so you can run as well. No point in riding with illegal bikes when you're fully legit, you'll get stuff like this happening.

lee_92 · DTR Respected Member

well its a bit of a downer that i cant do anything about it but next time i just wont stop.

and as for it being stupid for riding behind a few mx bike how please as i was riding normal not speeding. so i dont get how its stupid ok i may draw attenion to myself but nothing else.

i might looking into making a motorised numberplate so i can hide it when i want

-- Edited by lee_92 on Tuesday 9th of July 2013 07:10:47 PM

Harry · Guru

Nathlaad wrote:
Biggest pile of **** ever, "oh yeah, we have no proof it was you at all we just take the word of a random person, also if you get another within 12 months, we will scrap your bike" bunch of whoppers

Democracy.

Mate got one years ago, he got into an argument with some woman and starting revving like mad.

Fair enough he may have deserved it, I don't know I wasn't there but it the police came knocking a few days later about it. No witnesses, no CCTV - nothing. Surely if he said it never happened then they can do jack ****? By that logic I can just make up any old bollocks and get anyone done who I don't like....

Nathlaad · DTR Legend

just dont get caught with one of them, its a huge fine and stupid points

Cameron · Guru

Plastic bags make a very decent number plate cover lol...

Reef · Guru

Nathlaad wrote:
just dont get caught with one of them, its a huge fine and stupid points

Improsoment you mean

Nathlaad · DTR Legend

Yeah, seen people out on track bikes without ages, absolute menaces hahaha. Not much point on a DT tho hahaha you won't get far

Ralzy · Guru

ToySoldier wrote:
Boxing you sound like a old lady ffs

Iv seen c90s out run police and someones done it on my dt before its all about knowing the area

+1 Agreed ive done it myself on a DT in my younger days and that was with someone on the back aswell.

Not summat I would condone doing now like

-- Edited by Ralzy on Friday 12th of July 2013 12:41:38 AM

Luke · Guru

It's easy, don't do wheelies or speed.

As for flip up number plate, no. Just take your number plate off, whack it in your back pack, say the bike got knocked over at the local shops or something. If you say it was a day or so ago then they will fine you or give you a mouthful.

And don't ride with MX bikes. You're legit, forget riding with illegal riders. And expect to be pulled over for the littlest wrong for having that Section 59.

Also no point in taking the plate off of a DT. You'll NEVER out run a cop car with one. The helicopter will be out by the time you've even made some ground on them.

ToySoldier · DTR Legend

Boxing you sound like a old lady ffs

Iv seen c90s out run police and someones done it on my dt before its all about knowing the area

lee_92 · DTR Respected Member

lol so its not just me thinking it then lol

i wasnt doing wheelies or speeding and i cant/dont see the harm in riding with crossers

Ralzy · Guru

Lee if your legal there is no harm in riding with crossers but what you need to get into perspective if you do and the bacon see you. You will get a tug everytime mate

Harry · Guru

Boxing talks sense though, I dunno how bad the offence would actually have to be to risk running

+ even if they see your numberplate you're screwed, so only way would be not to ride around with a plate on and unless you live in the middle of no where that's a retarded idea.

ToySoldier · DTR Legend

Ride with who you want iv had it with sport bikes and I stoped they asked me who they are say I dunno just meet em down the road they wear leading me to a garage down the road somewear

Calum122 · Guru

The joke is right this actually happens in real life. If i see another group of 125's i'll just tag along and have a chat!

Luke · Guru

The DTR will probably be rare around your area. So your bike is distinctive. No point in riding around with no plate.

Especially if your bike is distinctive.

ToySoldier · DTR Legend

Does not matter if itz bright yellow and the only yellow bike in 50 miles unless they catch you at it there's no proof

Luke · Guru

ToySoldier wrote:
Does not matter if itz bright yellow and the only yellow bike in 50 miles unless they catch you at it there's no proof

There is. If he wears the same helmet, leathers etc every time he runs away and they pull him with his plate, the evidence is his helmet and leathers. Or jacket etc he wears whilst riding.

Also if his bike has any distinctive stickers like numbers or a emblem of something, then again it's evidence that it's the bike involved in the chase(s).

The road isn't a race track. If he wants to ride with MX riders, get a MX bike or face the bike being confiscated. Simple as. It's being retarded riding a 125CC with no number plate.

Nathlaad · DTR Legend

i beg to differ to, a young lad got nicked for setting off a speed camera whilst giving it the middle finger, they managed to trace him from the gear & bike as they couldnt get a reg for the bike

Luke · Guru

Energized wrote:
What about nath then boxing He's fine!

Nath is just lucky a cop or a cunt from a forum he's on hasn't seen it.

Mind you the majority of his videos don't show him on a busy public road (with heavy traffic or pedestrians) doing wheelies or show his speed-o. Aren't much grounds for prosecution in his videos.

-- Edited by Boxing on Sunday 14th of July 2013 06:32:04 PM

Sgt-syphilis · Guru

Things like this you have to go all or nothing...If you really want to ride like that then you need to have no numberplate, no v5 (ie no blue yamaha dt registered to you or your address), no insurance, tax or aaaaanything linking you to the bike, a lock-up for you bike that has no cctv within a mile of it and you must always be prepared to run from the old bill...oh and have tight lipped friends.

Its quite hard to do all of that...and you cant very well park your bike outside work or whatever...so you have to just have a spare bike to do all that shizz on...starts becoming a lot of hassle and really not worth it on a 125 road bike. Now living in the countryside with a 250 Mx bike on the other hand...but even with that, youll get local bobby with not much to do...

Luke · Guru

Get a 600 or over, take the number plate off, whack it under the seat if its a sports bike. Remain legit, but keep the number plate under the rear seat. Simple as, if you're being good, stop for the police say the bike has been bumped into at the supermarket (within the last hour) and job done.

If you're going to be naughty whack some plain clothes over your leathers. Simple as, use common clothes though like a basic jacket and jeans. Preferably one without a logo. Then rag the bike. You'll leave the police within minutes if you're a skilled rider. Of course if you come off mid-chase expect the book to be thrown at you.

If you want to ride fast and push the bike to its limits take it to a track.

Also buy a common bike. Don't go for something rare or distinctive. Which the DT is, not many lurking about now a days.