i blew my dt up ... but i fixed it.... Then i crashed it.... but i didnt fix it right and 2 scouser's come in the middle of the night and left me with a working bike
Good bikes for sure however unless it's had top end done and bottom end bearings changed if leave it as mine sounded rough at 10k and I owned it from new so it was looked after
-- Edited by creamsodauk on Monday 28th of April 2014 04:48:13 PM
I use my brothers RS alot. Cracking bikes. Personally I know the value of these and it's priced about right.
I road my brothers rs from hucclecoat to Hatherly probably 5 miles if that. I think I got halfway before my wrists were killing and my back starting to ache as well. I rode one for a whole year day in day out never failed me but f me my wrists knees and back!
If used as a toy amazing bikes. Reliability shouldn't be a factor if its a toy. It's a two stroke. Simple to rebuild as you know yourself dread. The power out of those things is so much more than a dt. Even my 4DL engine with ported barrel and 32mm blue printed carb is no match for his rs. I have my 4DL on the road and I don't see it myself. With a blue printed carb and ported barrel it's no match on power. It's good but not as good.
The newer ones handle better however if that's missing the RAVE System then forget about power. The newer ones are like the older dt's. they're blanked off. Some of them, lmao, have all the wiring left in bu Aprilia. Just needs the solenoid and ecu and it's plug and play.
I've got both bikes in my garage and insured to ride both. So i'm talking from experience. And I'm more biased to the Yamaha, otherwise why would I spend so much money on one. But the Aprlia is a cracking bike. Electrics are its only fault.
To ridd on a cbt they're great mini sports bikes. If I could have a Spains No 1 RS, hhmm it would br hard to justify having the dt.
Oh and they're costly when they do go wrong. We went to a scrappy for some rs bits. One day a new rs came in. We reserved parts for it. Two days later the bike was nothing but the frame. Well sort after and expensive. But cracking bikes.
any other common faults on these? are they plated cylinders? how long does it take to remove fairing etc to get underneath?
yeah the issue regarding engine is not a problem after stripping down both my engines.
what's tempting me is that i believe that this will prob be last yr of the 2 stroke? and is 8yrs younger than the dt.... although much love and money has gone into it lol
Those RS's don't seem to be holding their value as they should.
Yeah. It's not a common fault but well worth knowing about. The cogs that drive the oil pump are made of plastic/nylon. Kyle's snapped. But he caught it and rodr home 10 miles no oil. No damage to the bore. Gearbox full of plastic but flushed the oil.
I've had that style of rs before. Nightmare for panels because they're delicate bur that wouldn't stop me getting one. Doing engine work is easier than the dt in many respects. No need to remove fairing. Just lift the tank up and the engine is fully accessible. Well top end. The barrel is plated and oh my you should see the transfer ports. The equilvalent is the TZR SP barrel for porting wise.
The rear shocks on the older models tend to go. Again is costly.
The clutch goes on them bikes. Again with 26hp it's no wonder why. But those newer ones are a little bit more restricted so should be okay. And the clutch change on those bikes are soooooo much easier than the dt. So much easier. Not that the dt is hard by any means.
And again electrics can be dodgey. But my brothers spent 18 months out in the rain snow and sunshine. Apart from the kill switch rusting and needed taking apart and cleaning it's no worse offf than my dt. I had total electrical failure over the rebuild. Ignition switch connector block completely corroded. Yet that spends its life in s garage.
That's about it. They're a lovely feat of engineering as far as I'm concerned. High spec machine for thr money. Full ally frame and swing arm. Ram air intake. Amazing power for a 125. And overall amazing in yhe twisties. My brother reckons on his 160cc polini big bore that in the twisties he'll keep up woth 400's due to the weight of them being so light. With a dry weight of only 110Kg. Also I did a speed test the other week on my mates Land. From a 10 Mph rolling start i raced his Civic type R. In front all the way and clocked at some serious speed.
Not really Luke. Some people want to swap because it makes sense. Some people really want an RS and some people really want a DT. Sometimes the two have the other. Then swapping makes sense. I agree I'd always be wary of a swap. But then again I'd always be wary of a sale. You can get shafted in any case. Just because its a swap doesn't make it any more likely.
I think the issue is is that these RS's getting battered by 17 year olds who don't have a clue about engines. Then enthusiasts get them and they're shocking. I suspect the RS in my garage probably had a full rebuild before we bought it because it rides phenomenally.
And dread knows what he's looking for. If it sounds like a bag of nails then stay away. Unless you negotiate price for rebuild.
cheers fella's advice taken onboard. still thinking about it- but kinda holding off at moment as wanting a mk1 golf karmann for my next project- so possibly holding for a swap. in no rush to get rid of the DT and almost...almost bought another just round the corner for cheap money lol...wife would have gone mad though!
i blew my dt up ... but i fixed it.... Then i crashed it.... but i didnt fix it right and 2 scouser's come in the middle of the night and left me with a working bike
i blew my dt up ... but i fixed it.... Then i crashed it.... but i didnt fix it right and 2 scouser's come in the middle of the night and left me with a working bike
i set out to own and rebuild one..after getting rid of one 18yrs ago- was fun and learn't ALOT of things. if i get my mk1 golf and have cash left over then may well get DT, but also hanging around for the right TDR come round too :p
Good i think you should go down the mod route like do usd's sm ect
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i blew my dt up ... but i fixed it.... Then i crashed it.... but i didnt fix it right and 2 scouser's come in the middle of the night and left me with a working bike
Bike now sold... 1500 cash... gutted really as it looks like new owner hadnt clue much about them abd going to rag it to death...
bonus is i got to keep spare engine... that can now be sold with new piston and rebored barrel so should give me but more cash lol
Ive refused to sell a mint N reg DT with only 1000 od miles on it to a young kid before even though I wanted to sell it I just couldnt bare the thought of seeing it go to a kid and just get ruined. I sold it to a mature rider who had one in his youth a few days later.
As for the RS there fine ran on good oil, are you getting another DT ? Im still collecting new bits for mine that I bought new in 89 and bought back a couple of years ago.
well i sold all my DT spares now..but the temptation is still there to purchase another if cheap enough. Although i fancy a tdr project also. i'm happy now that i can tackle a full engine rebuild if needed and all the other bits that go along with a rough one lol.
Very good choice, dont bother with the 125 get a TDR250, ive got an 88 model ive had it for years, its the only bike I would never sell save for my 89 DT that I bought new. Handles like a dream sounds fantastic and goes like a rocket up to 115 then its finished. Its just a great bike to ride I cant speak highly enough off them.
You got any pictures of your TDR knocking about Scrim? :) Bet its a minter like the others. :)
As for the DT not selling to a lad, what was his response? He didn't travel and get a van etc, then you said no, did he?
To be honest, when it comes to selling my DT, first person to put the cash I want for it under my nose can have it. If they ruin it, it's on their own head.
Only pics i have of my TDR250 are from ebay when i bought it years ago, its got TZR250 wheels and DEP tailpipes on it now but I will have to take some pictures of it, it is mint now its been rebuilt from the frame up.
As for the DT not selling to a lad, what was his response? He didn't travel and get a van etc, then you said no, did he?
Nah, it was the son of a mate of a mate, he ended up buying another off ebay. I pulled the plug cap off it so it wouldn't start lol.......... I just couldn't see an as new bike with just over a 1000 miles on the clock go to rack and ruin. It deserved an owner who was going to take care of it Luke and that's what it got.
No I aint rode it for over 18 months due to being fooked up with waiting for a heart bypass then recovering from it then busting my sternum again in feb braying a dtr swinging arm bolt out just when i thought it was healed lol..... Probably be another few months yet as its still clicking all the time.
