DT125R ARCHIVE

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

DTR Build Up

Calum122 · Guru

Welcome!

Did you get a v5 with that frame mate. Numbers look a little won key which is always suspect.

Those Swing arm bearings will want replacing which can be costly. But should be a nice project.

Dec wheels are easy enough to come across. Depending how adventurous you're feeling there are a few other options you can choose. I'm using Aprilia rs 125 wheels but there are plenty to choose from.

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

Hello, i didn't get a v5. But when i did a registration check i also was able to check the vin against records. It came back correct for the reg. I was hoping i could get them out and maybe soak them in something then regrease. But seeing as it may be the only time it's apart i should probably replace them. Whats the best way of getting them out? I spent a good 20 mintues trying to get them out with a flathead and a hammer. At the moment im not feeling tok adventurous with the wheels. Ideally I'd want something that would be a direct fit, or i could easily get the parts to make them fit

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

Also I'll sort out the formatting tomorrow
Way too wide and ugly to read

Edit: Fixed pictures, hopefully nicer on the eye

-- Edited by ConnorDTR on Thursday 2nd of October 2014 06:45:55 PM

MIGHTYMAN · DTR Senior Member

Had the same problem as me when I started my project the other week! biggrin Have to resize images to make the layout neater.

sebamax2 · Guru

looks good. remember that the yamaha wr 125 wheels are the same and bolt right on. they are saxxes rather then excel thats the only difference. i had few sm dtrs and one had dtx wheels another aprilia rs wheels than a wr125 wheels onto another 2 dts with derbi senda 125 wheels. so really its plenty to choose from but the dtx or wr wheels are the easiest swap. also if you need i do have two sets of dtr forks that i was planing to send on ebay this week so if you need them let me know before i open an auction

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

Oh right, there are a few more options than just having dtx wheels. This is good news. I am after a set of forks, how much you looking for them?

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

Small update time, nothing interesting here.

So I decided to do some more work on the swingarm. Just removing bearings and bushings from the swing arm, actually turned out to be quite a hard job.

So these are the swingarm bearings, these actually didn't turn out to be too hard to change. A few hits from a hammer with the aid of a spark plug socket to hit on the edge of the bearing and they came free

Reusing these bearings is out of the question, but i planned to change every bearing whilst it was apart anyway. That's the point of rebuilding a bike right?

Now came the fun part of this evening, removing these bushes. I had previously tried to get these out with a screwdriver and hammer. But no luck.

So back refueled and with a little google knowledge i had a new plan of attack

Instead of just trying to straight hit them with a screwdriver and hope they get pushed out, i found out that you have to actually split the bush in half so it releases

the tension of the bush pushing up against the swingarm. So after cutting a slot with a hacksaw blade and mauling it with a screwdriver i finally got the bushes out.

So the hydraulic press at college is going to come in handy if they let me use... so will the sandblaster

Sorry this one wasn't exactly too interesting, but that will come when i get paid... at the end of this month

Calum122 · Guru

Nah sounds like goos stuff mate :D

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

Again i thought i'd give a small update, and maybe ask for some advice...
All i've been doing recently is hoarding in some parts for this project. So far I've got some forks, wiring loom, regulator and headlight bracket.
My main concern is what model this loom came from, it's a 3RM-82590-20 wiring loom. I know it's off of a 1996 German bike, but i'm unsure on what cdi to use with it
and what wiring diagram it comes with, everything fits the 1989-1998 loom diagram in the loom section apart from the indicator relay which has 3 spades instead of 2.
I haven't looked at the CDI wires yet but i'm going to check them now. Any help with this would be appreciated.

Edit: also i hope to have some more updates for you next week, half term and payday!!!

Edit: Okay looked at the wiring loom and can confirm it uses the same cdi as 1989-1998. But why does the relay have ground whilst others don't?

-- Edited by ConnorDTR on Wednesday 22nd of October 2014 07:03:10 PM

-- Edited by ConnorDTR on Wednesday 22nd of October 2014 07:24:23 PM

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

So not too much has happened after half term and payday, i thought i would knuckle down and get things done...

Then I realized I need to have all of the parts in front of me to start working on them.

So parts hoarding has continued, I'm hoping to have it powdercoated next month however that is my final pay before Christmas so I'm hoping Christmas isn't going to cost me too much this year.

So here's what photos i do have to show what i've been doing

My wiring loom from Germany, i was also sent the rectifier/regulator and headlight bracket with this

Received my yokes and forks so tried em, seeing bits go onto it really motivates me

Also cleaned up the suspension linkage i had received. It seems that every part I get is filthy and needs a good clean.

I have also now got the engine brackets and bolts. I've also won an auction on eBay for a radiator, 2stroke tank and coolant expansion bottle with all brackets, the scoops and hoses for a measly £1.25

just waiting on him to send it.

My Dad is going to take the frame into work with him to get the snapped bolts out of the frame, I've tried penetrating oil + mole grips however i had literally now success. I also got the lower bearing race off of the yoke thanks to my college

and their fancy head inductor thing.

Next Is to strip down the forks as the seals are gone and i need just the fork legs to give to the powdercoaters.

Also the brother decided to park his GSXR in the shed for winter, so i've got less space in a tiny shed disbelief

-- Edited by ConnorDTR on Tuesday 4th of November 2014 10:00:50 PM

scrimsmustang · DTR Mechanic

This is going to be a nice bike when its finished, £1:25 for them bits n bobs bargain...............

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

Thankyou, however it'll never be as nice as any of the bikes that you've done. I thought that the seller wasn't going to send them as I had literally stolen them off of him

scrimsmustang · DTR Mechanic

Hey I don't know about that but thanks anyway they are nice however people build them, I like mine to look original and I wont even look at one that's newer than a R reg but that's just me im an old fart stuck in my ways thinking im still 18. But there has been some really nice modified ones built on here much newer than any of mine. Its a case of everyone to there own on what they want and like I appreciate what goes into them all. I just like to see them started from the frame up its great.

MDK · DTR Legend

those frame numbers look like they was stamped by a drunk one armed russian I seen some bad stamping but thats the worst yet ...

notice you say you checked the numbers and they came back as ok...but would say they dont belong to that actual frame .

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

They do indeed look like they were done by a drunk russian, but the actual sticker from the factory (can see the white at the front) is the correct one. I believe it's a stolen/recovered. When i checked it said it had been stolen in 2003

scrimsmustang · DTR Mechanic

Not uncommon on a DT,

MDK · DTR Legend

oh I see .. maybe the case the owner tried to restamp it after he got it back if theifs ground them off ...

good tip if ever restamping put two strips of tape over where you intend to stamp stops the bounce and leves a good indent to get stamp back in same position if need be also to draw a marker pen line down to follow the line streight ...

if all else fails you can buy a block that holds all number stamps together

scrimsmustang · DTR Mechanic

Yeah you need it restamping for the mot, my mates 02 reg has been stolen twice and restamped twice ! as the fools always leave the engine number on it always comes home luckily ..................

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

I've got to restamp it for the mot just because they're a bit on the wonk? I'm honestly not surprised that it had been stolen before, it wouldn't be a DT if it wasn't stolen at least once in its life

scrimsmustang · DTR Mechanic

Don't matter if its a bit wonky for the mot, they just have to be there makes no odds what it looks like what so ever.

mad73 · DTR Respected Member

nice project u got going there , sort of thing im on the look out for or might just buy a whole bike then got all the bits will have to see how money goes wont be this year now to close to Christmas ,,,,

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

I wouldn't say it's nice, it's just a pile of bits at the moment. There was a job lot on ebay the other day which i thought was a good start for a dt project. But I would probably recommend starting with a complete bike that's a bit tatty, it's annoying that i can't do anything to this bike whilst waiting to be paid

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

Decided now to not supermoto, would love to have some fun in the mud on this bike!

Luke · Guru

You can get both and switch between. So much more miles to get out of the tyres on the SM set up.

SMurF_12 · DTR Senior Member

Get some continental tkc 80 tyres on the sm wheels and have some fun lol

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

I'd love to switch between the two, finding sm forks, brakes and wheels doesn't seem to come cheap anymore. Still a possibility for the future, but i'll finish it in "enduro" mode first. Pretty much the same as what NEV? did with his green and black DT. Are they really 17 inch knobblies? biggrin might stick some on my baby cbr!

Luke · Guru

Hmm, I think NEV only has the green one in SM set up, but I ain't too sure on that.

As for DTX SM wheels about £250-£300 is about right. Anything more they're dreaming. I got mine for £250 off Ralzy, minus the front brake caliper which was £20 off eBay from a RZF125. Then a bracket made up for about £5.

ConnorDTR · DTR Respected Member

Just double checked, he put that supermoto was his second stage of the project. Would get a picture of it before supermoto but imageshack likes to delete old photos. Ruined so many build threads -_-. Hmm i'd love to spend £250 on wheels, but just getting the bike this far has knackered my bank account. However i did see some joker trying to sell a pair of dtx wheels for £400 on ebay

scrimsmustang · DTR Mechanic

You could get a set of standard hubs rebuilt on brand new sm rims for about 350 quid not excel,s but not garbage neither then you can use the standard front calliper and disc