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Hey guys. 

I am having a problem with my 07 dtr, i road to my friends house about 6 miles away everything worked fine. i try to start it up to go home. and iv got nothing. no lights, no noises, nothing.

we replaced the clutch perch where the leaver connects to the bars. and their is a cable that stops you from starting your motor without the clutch in gear. 

we cut the cable and taped up the ends to remove the perch as we couldnt get the spade connectors out. 

tried starting the bike up boom. iv got nothing.

all the fuses are fine iv tested the battery, tried a new battery. to no avail.

and now im stuck with what it could be. 

Attached is an image of the cut cable.

Cheers Jimmy

 

 



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Right, hello Jimmy welcome to the forum.

I guess you've answered your own question. That was the neutral switch that tells you that the bike is in gear or not. On the Later DT's you have a starter motor. The STARTER MOTOR WILL NOT TURN OVER IF THE BIKE IS IN GEAR. So by cutting that cable you've effectively told the bike that it's always in gear don't turn the starter.

Not sure why you'd want to go cutting cables if you don't know what they do...

Restore that cable or install a kickstarter. I wrote up a thread of how to install the kickstarter on this forum for the RE's. Use the search function you'll find it.

 

Or very ultimately you will have to sort out that switch to tell the bike that it's always in neutral! This I DO NOT recommend since you'd be able to accidently press the starter motor when riding or any other time when the bike is in gear. Restore it back to how it should be.



-- Edited by Calum122 on Thursday 9th of October 2014 12:10:45 PM

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When I removed that switch recently it was a bit fiddly to get off. But I think there is a little clip you have to push in and keep twisting!

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Ok Brilliant thankyou for your swift reply. and yes it was a stupid thing to do which as you would know i regret doing instantly.

ok so its not just a factor of re stripping and re connecting the wires?

so the easiest option would be to install a kickstarter and leave it at that.

now iv bumped started it and road it a few times and i find my indicators flash extremely fast when my bikes on tick over?
but when rev'd they sort them selfs out.

now i am assuming this is something to do with not using the starter motor?

thanks you :)


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That doesn't sound like anything to do with the starter motor.. That may be that your battery is low? You should be able to strip and reconnect the wires and it would be easier than adding a kick-start lol

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Sounds like they were connected somewhere and they aided the resistance of the relays.

Nah strip the wire back, solder then together and use heatshrink to water tight it.

Then install a kicker cause they're badass :D

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ok. im going to try strip and reconnect the cable. to see if i get anywhere.

and then im also going to bump start it and try another battery to see if that stops the flickering.

and yeah i am definitely going to install a kick starter. 

thanks for your help.

 



-- Edited by Jimmyc2182 on Thursday 9th of October 2014 12:50:57 PM

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But Calum, could that switch not being connected have made the lights all stop working?!



-- Edited by OSmightymanOS on Thursday 9th of October 2014 12:37:08 PM

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But Calum, could that switch not being connected have made the lights all stop working?!



-- Edited by OSmightymanOS on Thursday 9th of October 2014 12:37:08 PM


 If you grab the wiring diagram you will actually see that many of the lights and relays feed into other stuff. Especially when timing is involved. Think how does the indicator blink. I don't see an ECU only relays, so it's quite possible that it's calculated using impedance. That's why so many people how issues with the LED indicators.

 

I'm not saying that's it, that is just my thought.



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ok so i removed the the switch out. i now need to solder the crappy wires back to the spades which connect to the switch.
and once this is all done. i should have it back and working again. and i shouldn't have a problem with my lights!

Cheers

i have attached a picture of the switch



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-- Edited by Jimmyc2182 on Thursday 9th of October 2014 01:03:35 PM

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By the sounds of things that ought to fix the problem. It still could be a completely unrelated problem, but we'll cross that step when we get to it.

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ok cheers for your help im going to get this done and ill reply to here when it is done.

Thanks for your help.


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out of interest do i need this switch to be able to use the bike. is there a way round this? 

 

Kickstarter i remember.



-- Edited by Jimmyc2182 on Thursday 9th of October 2014 02:19:07 PM

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No but I imagine you now won't have a neutral light so you won't know for sure if the bike is not in gear which is well annoying for me lmao!


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ahh ok. so the clutch leaver controls the neutral light?

not the gear leaver?

sorry about all the questions just trying to get my head round things.



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Well no, there is a sensor which is where that wire goes to. I assume it uses IR or something to determine when the selector drum is in the neutral state. That wire feeds to a little switch (like your brake light switch) beneath the clutch lever. When the clutch is pulled in, the engine is disengaged and therefore out of gear. But if it's depressed then it's in gear, unless it's in neutral.

 

Ultimately, if the bike is in neutral then the neutral switch will detect this and allow use of the starter motor. Cutting that wire must have put it into some sort of fail safe mode.



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thankyou for the help. im not great with how it all works but im trying my best haha.
iv put the switch back in and iv unplugged the cable so that i can put the spade connectors back on to then connect them all up. im waiting for a friend of mine to deliver some spades.
ill then plug it all in and get back to you.



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if this doesnt fix it im guessing alternator, starter motor. or reg rec. maybe cdi.

i dont know.

 

just noting 



-- Edited by Jimmyc2182 on Thursday 9th of October 2014 03:47:12 PM

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Unlikely.... :/

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in that case ill have no idea haha!!

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if interested in the fault! it was corrosion in the fuse box!! unfortunately i seized the bastard haha.

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