DT125R ARCHIVE

djaniero · DTR Senior Member

SM Security

ezegreenfingers · Guru

To much is never enough ! biggrin

djaniero · DTR Senior Member

Nuff said lol!! Do you use all 3 at home? What do you use if you're out and about and need to lock it up?

Calum122 · Guru

Literally some times depending on what you want out of your bike, don't. My brothers yz is literally kick and go no keys so it's not the sort of bike you leave out your sight. Unfortunately that's the way it is. I carry an xena disc locl everywhere I go. And if I am going somewhere where I'm away from the bike for more than 20 minutes. And oxford lock and chain.

djaniero · DTR Senior Member

What oxford lock and chain combo do you have?

I think I'm going to go for the almax for home, but I'm guessing it'll be too hefty to carry around with me aswell?

Victor · Guru

Steering lock is plenty biggrin

ezegreenfingers · Guru

I use all these chains for my bike in a locked garage with a hefty ground anchor

djaniero · DTR Senior Member

Have you got one of the resin based anchors or something like a Y anchor?

sebamax2 · Guru

haha conciser a GPS tracker i have finally fitted one after my other bike got nicked, and so far it works well not really 100% accurate but when i get the msg with the location the bike was literally in 50meter radious from the dot, so if it does get stolen it should be fairly easy to find it knowing where abouts it could be knocking down all the doors lol . but it does cost a bit to keep it updated if you use it often as it works with a sim card so got to watch out that the credit is topped up or just set up auto top up whenever the balance gets low. i still need to relocate so its not so easy to be found

Luke · Guru

djaniero wrote:
What oxford lock and chain combo do you have?

I think I'm going to go for the almax for home, but I'm guessing it'll be too hefty to carry around with me aswell?

You're probably more likely to have your bike stolen away from home, unless you keep it stored outside at your home, of course.

Also, don't forget the problem with alarms is that they get ignored. If you're a deep sleeper or you have something on in your house, TV etc, then the alarm could be ignored.

Get some garden lights, you can even get one equipped with a CCTV camera, which no one will think it is, unless they looked closely at it, in the daylight as the light dazzles you when it's on. They record when they pick up motion (if you set them up that way) as well. So no need to watch 24 hours worth of recording every day. Personally, I'd get where you keep the bike, and another camera or two to cover entrance points. smile

I never leave my DT anywhere I can't see it. Even if I do it's for under 5 minutes at the most (going inside a shop for example.) Of course we all have insurance for the rainy day that something may happen, but why should we lose our NCB because some thief can't keep his hands off someone's stuff?

BTW you can get jacked up at traffic lights etc as well. Most people I know with motorbikes carry a weapon in some shape or form. Usually a hammer or big wrench to "fix" their bikes lol.

Liam12 · DTR Legend

Garden lights won't do nothing, if the theives are clever enough they'll know that a bit of duct tape over the sensor an no light will come on

ringo67 · DTR Senior Member

I've got two dogs but they get a bit knackered trying to keep up. When I go out....plus they keep p155ing up it when parked in the garden...

djaniero · DTR Senior Member

GPS Tracker sounds interesting.

I've got a mate who installs cctvs so I'm sure he'd be able to hook me up with something as well.

Thanks for the heads up on the jacking at lights etc, something similar happened in the past with my starlet....the jackers had to find out the hard way though..... bless them lol

Luke · Guru

Liam12 wrote:
Garden lights won't do nothing, if the theives are clever enough they'll know that a bit of duct tape over the sensor an no light will come on

Only if the house owner is silly enough to put them at hand/arm reach. Mine can only be messed with if they have a pair of ladders. I think my dogs or I would be well aware of a pair of step ladders going up, lol.

Also, the jacking is only if you're in a rubbish area. I've had someone try to kick me off my DT. I thought it was hilarious I've had punches harder than his little pathetic kick. biggrin

Also, you should never draw a weapon if you're just going to wave it and shout, that's how you get it took off you and you get killed. You draw it, you use it no messing about. If they're wise enough, they'd all run. (They often operate in gangs to give the intimidation a bit more.) These are actually military rules, learned from my dad who is was in the army at one stage.

dan28 · DTR Senior Member

What about installing A small switch that cuts the power to cdi / magnetio

Calum122 · Guru

Doesn't stop them nicking it. It just stops them riding it and chances are if they can't ride it then they'll just set fire to it.

Luke · Guru

Calum122 wrote:
Doesn't stop them nicking it. It just stops them riding it and chances are if they can't ride it then they'll just set fire to it.

Yes, this is accurate. Often if they can't cut chains they'll do damage to the bike out of spite. Most bike thieves are just kids with nothing better to do.

Bikes like the DT are only stolen for one reason, all the lights will be gone and it'll be a field bike. This is why I don't even bother enquiring about the majority of "field" bikes in similar form. Unless you know the bike that you're about to buy well and know what the legit numbers will look like, I wouldn't even bother touching them. A lot of MX bikes have their serials altered also (quick way to find this out is to ring the manufacturer's dealership, all of the bikes off the production line are on their records.)

Personally I'll never own a supermoto / enduro type bike as a commuter. My DT is purely for fun, therefore it's never left outside unsupervised.

MIGHTYMAN · DTR Senior Member

I have a couple of local pikeys who've in the past tried to nick one of my bikes when it wasn't ground anchored. (Luckily one of my Bros came home from the pub and chased them off) Sorry if im stating the obvious but it just goes to show if its not tied down it will go. I had a disc lock and chain around both wheels but they still tried walking it off.

Calum122 · Guru

Yeah but the dt is a commuter, that's what they were designed for.

Understand if it were a yz or summit but a dt is a commuter.

MIGHTYMAN · DTR Senior Member

Yeah it actually was a yz they tried to nick. Obviously out and about there isnt always going to be a lampost / bike rack to chain it too, but I'm saying for home storage. I've watched the bastards climb over my fence only to see the ground anchor, turn around and go back the way they came. Probably thinking "we'll wait until he forgets to chain it up one day".

djaniero · DTR Senior Member

Thread Revival!!!

Have any of you guys got any pics, of where you feed your chain through your bikes?

I'm getting a 16mm chain, so there is pretty much sod all space I can see to feed the chain through the frame. So I was thinking about getting a chain and pinch pin combo (the pin will go through the frame)

Liam12 · DTR Legend

Mine went through the rear wheel then round the Swingarm and through the subframe

mushy408 · DTR Respected Member

I've got a cyclone v1 alarm, the v2 isn't compatible with the DTR.

V1 has very sensitive knock sensor, and is enough to wake everyone up on the street.

Only problem is that the DTR has 2 different ignitions depending on the year.
Some use ground/earth to kill the engine, others like mine are the opposite (ground/earth to run)

I had to fit a relay to the alarm wiring loom so that the immobiliser/remote engine kill works.

On top of that, Almax series 3 chain & lock just to be sure. For now she's staying in the house until I've sorted a ground anchor/storage outside.

Always remember, there's nothing wrong with going overkill on security!

djaniero · DTR Senior Member

@Lia,12 - how long is your chain? and how thick is it.....I don't think there is enough space inbetween my spokes to be able to feed the chain through it.

@Mushy408 - Sorry I should have pointed out that I have an aprila mx125 not a DTR. Do you know if the cyclone is compatible with my bike? Also do you just feed the Almax Chain through the frame?

mushy408 · DTR Respected Member

Yes the cyclone v1 is mostly for 2 strokes. The v2 is for 4t and the Chinese bangers

As simple as the DTR wiring is, the v1 is plenty I you want the piece of mind knowing that if ANY scum even so much as touch it, the alarm (120db) will let you know for a good 10 minutes.
Can even set it off by remote - best laugh you'll have...

I parked mine up outside our local asda while I went to the cash machine. Bike was only 20 feet away and before I even got to punch in my pin there were 3 chav ****-ends already eyeing it. One went over to it and to me it looked like he was gonna touch it... Hand in my pocket and click the fob - BANG he **** himself and his mates laughed at him.
What a mook!

As for my Almax, I wrap it round the back end thru the grab rail, round the wheel twice and thru the swinger and ground anchor (attached at waist height on my house.
Any slack I twist up the chain and make it as tight as possible so it can't be pulled away from the wall.

Not sure how fat the links are (18-20mm?) but it won't fit thru the frame unless I chain the front wheel and stick it thru the frame behind the exhaust.

But saying that I've got the 2 meter chain so I can literally wrap the bike in it.

djaniero · DTR Senior Member

hahaha.....Sounds like I need to get a cyclone alarm asap. I better the lil scrote had the scare of his life...

Is this the one?
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330972216301%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Have you got any pics of how you wrap the chain around like that? Feel free to pm me if you don't want to post pics of it on the forum. I've been speaking to Steve and David from Pramasis today....I think I'll be getting one of their chains.....sapposedly made to the exact same specs as the almax series.

mushy408 · DTR Respected Member

Similar but this is the one I have - www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NCS-COMPACT-MOTORBIKE-MOTORCYCLE-ALARM-IMMOBILISER-ALSO-FOR-QUAD-ATV-TRIKE-/201002746887

As for the pics I can't do atm cos my bike is in our kitchen with the engine out (our lass loves me...)

Good way to think about where to attach/thread the chain...

a) What bits CANNOT be removed easily? Chaining only your back wheel means they'll take the wheel off and carry it.
Same goes for front wheel
b) Things like the swingarm/suspension are a good place to start unless you can fit the chain somewhere thru the frame near the engine.
c) The chain needs to be as tight as possible without damaging anything, make sure any slack is wrapped around itself.
d) What you're securing your bike to is important. Scrotes will smash concrete walls, fence panels, even cut the roof off your shed to get at your toy. If it's not secured to something... err... secure... they'll have it.
e) Biggest rule of all is NEVER let the chain touch the floor - this gives thieves leverage with croppers/pry bars to bust the lock or chain.

If you're stumped for ideas, get one of those big rubble buckets and fill it with concrete. Get some nice thick steel bent to a 'u' shape with the ends curled out slightly and stick it in there. Once it's dried you've got a 30-40Kg chunk of concrete with a ground anchor stuck to it. If they want your bike they best either bust the chain or take the concrete with them!

I do have good faith in my Almax after seeing the attack test videos, but still... If the bastards want it so bad they will get it, even if it meant breaking into my house and smashing me & 2 dogs up for the keys (which ain't gonna happen I can assure you!)

-- Edited by mushy408 on Tuesday 10th of February 2015 11:15:28 PM

djaniero · DTR Senior Member

Thanks. Are they simple enough to fit? My electrical knowledge is limited but I'm a quick learner and have access to tools.

lol....no worries.

Yeah the Pragmasis guys were saying the same i.e. try and make sure the chain us tight and off the floor for the same reasons.

Funny you mention that about the rubble bucket, as thats what I'm planning to use :).

Is a shame that, certain scum will go to these lengths to take our pride and joy, after we grafted hard to buy it. But as you said, I'll do whatever I can to make it difficult as hell for them to do so.

MDK · DTR Legend

cctv is ok but as in most cases will not stop them and all your left with is a grainy video of a hooded figure stealing your bike ...

good chains and good lockas are great but if the bike is not locked to something that can not be cut or moved then pointless as they will carry it away or chuck it in a car or van ..

seen many a time guys chain to a washing line post ( they snap easy) or just put the chain throu wheel or forks and wake up or return to a chained up wheel only .

alarms of any kind again are great as long as the bikes close to home and in public most people just keep on walking and if chuckled in a van the alarm is soon muffeld .

fact is no matter what you buy or do they will have a way round it or soon come up with a way round it ...

I do like the gps trackers if hidden well and have their own power than can be realy helpfull to narrow down a search area ..you do get many that wire them to the battery and for a field bike thats soo one of the first things to come off along with the lights .

know some that have used these and if done right can be very effective http://www.airsoftworld.net/alarm-trip-mine-12g.html

-- Edited by MDK on Wednesday 11th of February 2015 01:30:04 PM

djaniero · DTR Senior Member

@MDK - How doe those mines work? Basically as soon as someone tugs at that chord it releases the blank round? I'm guessing you'd put in on the inside of a door or something?