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Im rebuilding my 2006 engine and have conflicting problems with the manual.

I need to speak to someone who has rebuilt one of these clutches/engines really.I will try and explain the best i can.

As the basket goes on the shaft it shows 2 washers,a conical washer and a thrust washer (shown as 10 and 11 in the DT service manual)I cant upload the manual page im on so please bear with me.I only have 1 washer.The basket gear sits in the right place on the gear it meshes with but there seems to be play when i pull and push the basket.

Also does the splined washer that goes inside the basket under the lock plate sit on the splines or is it splined so it slides over the shaft splines and sits behind them on the basket?

Ill take some photos if hard to understand.



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i did this not to long back an was worried like you ,,, i had a guy i know with mecanics an enginering experience to look it overan i do when its all together correctly there is a slight bit of play thats supposed to be there to stop you snapping your clutch wheel to pieces so dont worry about it m8

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Cheers tripr,

All sorted now,

The f*cking ball bearing had come out and it was missing the conical washer.Should be ok now,but wont know until its fully rebuilt and running and im along way off that yet.



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check out my rebuild thread man "dtdans cursed rebuild"

and your right about the manual ,its got loads of mistakes and isnt as clear as it should be

did you set the clutch arm when you had it open ????



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What do you mean by set the clutch arm??Dont say ive done it wrong again.



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yeah id like to know this to incase iv done it wrong cos mine seems to slip alot at midrev when the bikes cold since i did mine

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There is a marking down the left side where the clutch arm should be set to before perfecting it,
On 99% of the DTR's i've done it's always been there after i've done tinkering with it anyways.. But then again i always checked regardless

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Hi mate,

****,Can you tell me more about this mark for the clutch.

Where is it?

I have the side casing off at the moment,put all the plates offset and tightned everything up.What now??

 

Ta buddy,Carl



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did you soak the plate in oil for at least 2 hours because it will scrunch,

just warning incase you didnt know



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yeah plates are off another engine so have been swapped so should be ok.

I just dont know about setting the arm.



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It's on the left hand side of the engine where your clutch cable goes, if you look on the arm that your cable attaches to there is a little notch sticking out of it sort of a little point sticking out, you need to match that up to the bit sticking out of the casing at that side, it's hard to explain without pictures, and since I've long since sold my DTR I'm not that much help unfortunately.

If i remember correctly, you slacken the cable off at the handlebars, pull the arm to the marking on the casing then get someone else with a screwdriver to tighten your push rod nut which pushes your pressure plate out..

Not too tight or your clutch will slip as your riding, if it matches up on the left side then rebuild the clutch casing and adjust at the handlebars ensuring it's not too tight either, you want about 2-3mm of freeplay in the lever

Forgive me if i get anything slightly wrong, as i haven't worked on a DTR in well over 18 months lol

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Ta mate,

I understand what you mean,luckily.

Itl be a while before i have cables connected but will definately bear this in mind.



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How hard is it to change the plates and springs as i want to change mine to ebc ones as my bikes done 19500 miles on the same clutch

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It's easy as chuff if you know what you're doing, hard as buggery if you don't haha
No really, if you have a Haynes it should be very straight forward..
If not then it can be abit of a nuisance..

In terms of working on a bike how much knowledge you got?
Writing up a n00b-proof quide would take a while..

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iv had mine apart again yesterday an then again double checkin it was right. fiddled with the push rod a bit more ,,, An my bikes clutch is still slipping at full throttle ,,
i even stripped all the clutch plates cleaned em soaked em in oil refitted same slipping at full throttle # i av put fresh oil in it does anybody elses slip with fresh motul 30/10

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Did you line the markings up on the basket and the housing before tightening the springs,i know i didnt.



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yeah  that was my main aim  getting that bit spot on m8. before tightening the springs hey  thanks m8  im not sure if i did it before or after i did the springs up ,,,  here we go again   bike to bits day ,,, it better stay sunny

 

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did it myself last week and stripped it down again.

have you offset all the plates?i didnt do this neither,im sh*t me.



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lol i did my best m8 its improved but it still doing it at top speed slippin a bit.

with those plates how do you mean offset .. here's wat i did anyway ,,, the little lip on the metal bit facing at 12oclock / 2 / 4 / 6 / 8 /10 oclock i think im a bit sheet two m8 lol,,, there was mine an next doors kids on my case tho well i was tryin to concentrate.

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yeah thats how i did it mate,then adjusted the lever where the cables goes after tightening up the springs,oh and that little ball bearing inbetween the push rods,i take it you know about that little fecker.



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How much freeplay do you have in your lever up top?
I've rebuilt clutchs over and over mainly because my lever was too tight up top, it needs 2-3mm of freeplay or it will be too tight
So check that before getting your tools out smile



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Ive not got any cables connected yet,still early days.

But will be reading all this when im getting everything setup. 



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cheers m8 done that  yeah theres enough freeplay there definetly ...     the BB' is in the right place too...

 

one more go  at it   doing the springs up  this tim before the locking nut on the pressure plate,, cheers  fellaz



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Yeah the springs go on first, don't just tighten 1 up fully before the next.. You wanna do is sequentially (big word for me) (Oh and also check that the marking on the pressure plate matches where the marking on the outer clutch is)
And then when they're all tight you want to do the pushrod and locking nut with the cables all slack (especially the adjuster down the left side)
Holding the clutch bar thingy on the left side at the marking point, then tighten it until it feels a little bit tight (not overly tight or it will slip) you can put the locking nut on
Then put it all back together and tighten it up at the handlebars until you have about 2-3mm of play smile



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Cheers for your help there m8   slip eliminated    im a happy chappie again now it was really startin to do my nut  in

thanks m8



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Haha no worries pal, I've had the DTR clutch apart too many times to even remember.. wink

Just hope Carl doesn't run into any problems either! biggrin



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