DT125R ARCHIVE

Luke · Guru

RE: 2003 DT "Back to Road" Project - Limitless

2BLimitless · DTR Senior Member

Hi guys just a quick update. I have fixed loads today! Temp sender is wired up, front indicators are good. Found the brake light problem and fitted a new innertube! Wool wool

But I've kinda $ucked the bike, I have broken of one of the four front wheel bolt holder, bolts off :/ stupid torque wrench didn't click so I righted it till it snapped off. Is this bolt replaceable or am I looking at a new front folk? I'm wounded pics to come later

SMurF_12 · DTR Senior Member

The studs do not seem to be sold seperately by yamaha, but its worth trying to drill it out to see if you can replace it.
If you have no joy then a set of 2nd hand forks are not very expensive. Also I will be selling a set of lowers very soon.

Calum122 · Guru

Oh dear. I'm sure it is fixable. And if not a fork leg is dirt cheap anyway.

2BLimitless · DTR Senior Member

****, :( seems they are £30-40 on ebay plus postage.

I could try and have it welded back on or somthing, going to have to talk to a garauge see what they can do. its the actual bolt that has snapped so i can still pull of the bolt carrier assembly off the fork if I need to... I just really dont fancy the idea of pulling off the forks and fitting them. All this over a tiny bolt, yamaha bastards.

Victor · Guru

Drill the stud carefully and replace it with a m4 bolt.

Failing that leave it as it is. I did this to my first DTR and was fine for a good 1k miles before I sorted it

2BLimitless · DTR Senior Member

Victor wrote:
Drill the stud carefully and replace it with a m4 bolt.

Failing that leave it as it is. I did this to my first DTR and was fine for a good 1k miles before I sorted it

You are a genius, pulled out the F-ucker this morning!... had to contact a ebay guy and cancel the purchases of a set of folks for £40! thats was close!

Really do have to get some pics up tonight

Victor · Guru

I think they might be 6mm studs not 4mm studs can't remember

2BLimitless · DTR Senior Member

seems they are 6mm studs, 30mm in length

2BLimitless · DTR Senior Member

Front indicators working :)

Back brake working!... seems the electro house monkeys who owned this before me wired up the back light wrong, why would you do that? Thanks to this forums old ancient posts I found that problem's solution.

Replaced the front inner tube... Guess what i found in there btw? Seems they thought it was aceptable to use a pedal bike inner tube for a motorbike... (facepalm)

Still left to do now, fix horn, fix front light.

oli_125 · DTR Respected Member

Lookin good :)

i had too use bolts instead of studs on my fork leg! worst part is i left one in an now when i try take it off it just spins the stud an it wont come out :@ haha

Luke · Guru

I'd buy a new lever to finish it off. Also before you put it in for the MOT, ask them if it'll fail on the lever being snapped. Some of them are fussy.

Also invest in some locks if you've been riding it. A lot of thefts of these bikes. Often rode around as field bikes with all the lights off once robbed. And don't leave wire cutters near your bike. wink

-- Edited by Luke on Monday 4th of August 2014 03:26:39 PM

2BLimitless · DTR Senior Member

hahaha yeah its being stored in a relatively safe place, I was thinking about going for an oxford siren disclock/alarm and an almax chain and lock.

Calum122 · Guru

Disc lock alarms are a bit sh1t. Personally I prefer the cyclone alarm system. Cheap and cheerful it was good enough for me.

Victor · Guru

Calum122 wrote:
Disc lock alarms are a bit sh1t. Personally I prefer the cyclone alarm system. Cheap and cheerful it was good enough for me.

Why don't you like them? I love mine.

It's an Oxford one was only 30 on ebay and super sensitive and loud aww

SMurF_12 · DTR Senior Member

The oxford screamer aint bad to capture your attention. Xena is a better equivelent. But with an almax chain too it should be fine.

Calum122 · Guru

I got the xena disc lock alarm. Wouldn't let me get the bastard alarm in before going off! At least with the cyclone you arm it and disarm it.

2BLimitless · DTR Senior Member

I need to make a shopping list of accessory's to buy :)

ok guys quick question. the horn right now isnt working when ever i press the button, i hear a tick and the instruments dim, and engine starts to die. from what i can see from my wiring diagram its connected strait to the battery and isnt involved with any relays so im a little confused as to why it would make a click (sounds like a relay) and dims everything?? havent had a look at it with a volt meter but if anything comes to mind you might be able to save me a volt hunt.

2BLimitless · DTR Senior Member

Ok guys also, I have a little play in my headbearing. I know changing it is a mega pain in the arsenal. If it's just a little do you think it will get through not or is it a strict no no

Calum122 · Guru

Replacing the headstock bearings? Difficult? No mate. When it's all stripped down it's a five minute job. Real easy job no technical hardship involved.

Well worth doing to investigate what has failed, and I know my local MOT'er loves to fail bikes on that. Because it's an easy job, that takes a long time because you have to strip the front of the bike. Not hard and can be costly because of labour. So yes, well worth replacing. Go as high as quality as you can on that part. I swapped mine out for Taper Roller bearings, although that required fabrication, stock bearings will suffice, Koyo if you can get them.

Luke · Guru

If you do get the Almax chain, get the padlock to go with it. The weakest link in them chains is the padlock you use. Most thieves targeting DT's etc are just young lads after a field bike. Not many have bolt crops.

Cyclone alarm will be a good idea. Again Almax chain and padlock should be a priority. Brings your insurance policy down also. But if you do claim them, if your bike gets robbed and you didn't have a chain they can refuse to pay out if you have theft cover.

Also you do want something to alert you to the theft. As the thieves often destroy bikes if they can't have them. A lad had his RM 250 stolen, and he said they had splashed oil/petrol all over the place. They were going to set his bike and garage on fire, but managed to get his locks off.

Of course, this isn't to say it will definitely happen to you. It just takes one thief to see it or a spotter to see it and tell his thieving mates, and they'll come back.

Also if you visit friends / girlfriend etc, put the bike in their back garden and bring your locks, NEVER leave a motorbike in plain view in front of someone's house. Especially if you're from a high motorbike crime area. Liverpool, Manchester and London suffer real bad from it.
If you have an Almax chain there really isn't much to worry about though.

Victor · Guru

I disagree as usual lol, a chain anchored to nothing means they can just drag your bike away, which happened to my mates crf 450 twice

He was very lucky though and got it back the first time himself and the police got it the second time.

He now keeps his bike's at mine because all my stuff is alarmed inside a locked also alarmed garage, he only lives over the road.

I would rather have a cheap alarmed disc lock, nobody stick's around once it starts screaming.

Dt Danny · Guru

i agree there victor if someone is trying to rob a bike late a night and an alarm starts to scream i bet they would gtfo. personally i had 2 chains round my frame to a ground anchor disc lock on front disc another lock on the back disc garage is alarmed and locked with a 1 inch steel lock and a chain and the car is backed up against the gate so no ****er could get the bike out without moving the car.

i know its sad but it what you have to do to keep your bike safe

Luke · Guru

Only a disc lock, I won't go into much details but the majority you can pop off with a certain tool thieves use. I won't name it, but it isn't a flat head.

And not many will carry a DT away, if you chain it correctly through the chain and through the rear wheel and subframe they won't get a good angle with their crops either.

Also there was a post on one of the spotted pages for the local rough area, the thieves came three miles, stole a moped from them. And then they came back the next weekend after the police recovered the bike the next day, to steal it back. But they noticed they had a nice big supermoto on the front chained to the lamp post. They cut their lock with bolt croppers, and then were pushing it down the road with the alarm blaring, they came back three or four times in order to nick it. The blokes wife was screaming at them in the window as they were walking it off, they all just dropped the bike and ran off. The police got the sniffer dogs out for them and everything, came back empty handed, they managed to get away.

Also, I'd never store a friends bike. If that gets stolen from your house, I know who he'll more than likely be chasing after for money back, you. Had a friend of mine trying to store his bike in my shed, only a Pit Bike worth £150, but I can't be dealing with the risk of it being took, had my shed done over before, granted my shed is a lot more secure now, but I don't run risks like that. Of course I pointed out it was his risk leaving it at my house, but still got him to get it out. About two weeks later it got stolen out of his shed, and never seen ever again. I believe it was stripped down and ringed into another pit bike.

-- Edited by Luke on Tuesday 5th of August 2014 07:16:24 PM

2BLimitless · DTR Senior Member

Today is a very sad day, pretty much concluded that the bike is a RINGER. :(

Removed the powder coat with a razer blade and the numbers look very funky, really devastated but not really surprised.

Photo's to follow soon!

Guess im on the lookout for a frame now

Victor · Guru

Does look dodgy as...clearly all the number's prior to the 4 have been added at a later date.

But If you have the v5 and the frame number matches I would assume your fine.

If I had a bent or badly damaged frame with a v5(not written off)...I would be tempted to swap numbers onto a "field bike only frame".

As long as I grind the number's off the original, not sure how anybody could ever prove it wasn't legit.

2BLimitless · DTR Senior Member

I really don't want a dodgy bike, I'm going to have to find a replacement frame with v5

Calum122 · Guru

As said I really wouldn't have bothered with the numbers unless specifically asked...

2BLimitless · DTR Senior Member

Might talk to the dvla, it was lost and stolen in its past

scrimsmustang · DTR Mechanic

Vin numbers starting "SABTVRO" are DVLA VRO issued vin numbers that they give to restamp onto stolen and recovered vehicles and Q plates, wait till you get the logbook back before you contact DVLA and if it matches its fine. In the meantime pm the full vin to Dan and ask him to do a vehicle check on it and see what it comes back as.